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"Oh please stop blocking the roads UwU"
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Keeping everything else the same but switching to EV is still really bad for the environment and bad for people.
It's less bad than burning gasoline by far, but your argument is only an environmental one on the surface. I just wish people like you would come out and say you're against individual autonomy already.
Wtf are you talking about? Cobalt is a rare earth blood mineral, so continuing on with our car-centric society will make battery demand unsustainable and kill 1000s of workers. I want human-scale architecture with highly accessible public transit, so people have more choices to travel. Car-centric architecture spreads things out by necessity, which creates unnecessary waste and destruction of wildlife.
Efforts are already underway to remove it from future battery production, and so far they've been fairly successful.
You just don't want people to be able to move on any terms besides those of whoever owns mass transit. Please stop trying to pretend that's not the case.
There is room for cars to exist. I think most vehicles don't need to be as large as they are currently, but there's still a place for them. I just also want highspeed passenger rail, busses, lrt, bikes, and walking to be considered. I also want the government to offer these as a service, I don't want any corporate involvement with public transit.
I think for certain types of mass transit, specifically buses, corporate control would be fine as long as there's enough regulation to ensure a reasonable minimum standard of safety. Even corporate trains might work if someone can wrest control of the actual rails themselves away from the freight companies.
I agree, though. There's room for both mass transit and individual transportation in the world.
Clearly someone here thinks the US = the entire world.
On the opposite side of the world said "reasonable standard of safety" is literally the norm.
"individual autonomy" except riding a bike or walking requires no (government controlled) licence no (corporate provided, and government-mandated in many places) insurance and no (government demanded) road tax.
seems like a bad case of car-brain... seek help
Have you ever tried to move a cello on a bike? It fucking sucks, and I'm absolutely not going to take my most prized instrument for a bike ride in the rain.
Sounds like a bad case of being a bike-humper. Seek help, and while you're at it, get a fucking clue.
honestly, i haven't.
but i've moved heavier and more fragile shit in a bike trailer, and 2 minutes of internetting located this cellist who toured with not only her instrument, but entire-ass gig setup, by bike: https://can.org.nz/article/cyclist-musician-to-tour-with-cello-and-recycled-solar-powered-electric-assist-bicycle-trail
either way, a comically large musical instrument (which let's be real, those of us with a vision for a post-car future would probably still sign off on as "sure I guess an occasional van is fine for this") doesn't address the nonsense take that private car ownership, and widespread car-centric public space, is a core part of, or even compatible with, "individual autonomy". you've been lied to, and you're now doing free PR work for an industry that's poisoning our lungs, killing our friends and family (especially older and younger people), and torching the planet.
brb making some "bike-humper" stickers.