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[-] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 91 points 1 year ago

Was there actually anything stopping them before, other than some traffic cops with a grenade launcher, and some excavator operators frantically digging up the motorway?

[-] Dntshoot@lemmy.world 122 points 1 year ago

No, but they chickened out and now Putin has had a month to set up defenses

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago

Military equipment in Russia protecting Putin is military equipment that can't be used to attack Ukraine, so this is still a win.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

Especially if Wagner manages to destroy some or a lot of them.

[-] aksdb@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

And if they don't, their own equipment is destroyed which also belongs to Russia.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

It was a bad idea to begin with. Putin would and did flee to his bunker and then have to endure a siege on Moscow after that... There is no way they win a siege against the Russian army, in Moscow.

[-] Dntshoot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yea but at least he would have died fighting. Now he died for nothing lol

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Died fighting whom? The Russian populace that he seems to support, and are apathetic at worst towards him? It's not like Putin himself was going to lead the siege charge on horse back carrying an AK or something.

[-] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Putin lost his corn flakes.

[-] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Wagner group doesn't have any air assets, the Air Force probably could annihilate them on the way to Moscow. Not much cover in Russia

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well that did not work so well the first time. No idea if they still have any anti air capacity though.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/26/wagner-group-shot-down-seven-russian-aircraft-coup-attempt/

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

not anymore, they had to give up all heavy equipment

The Russian Air Force sucks absolute balls at CAS. Apart from their general systemic issues, they don’t train for CAS, and it shows in Ukraine. Also, when Wagner tried to bum-rush Moscow the first time, pilots who actually attempted CAS missions didn’t do so well - there are several videos of them trying to airstrike Wagner positions and columns where the Russian pilots are not even close to putting munitions on-target effectively.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Wagner even shot down one Russian helicopter.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Wagner did manage to take down quite a few Russian air units in a short period of time before.

Whether that was due to lack of organization and command among the Russian military because of the surprise of Wagner's actions is up for debate, but I guess we might get to see how that turns out this time around.

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago
[-] thenightisdark@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Anti-aircraft is different than air assets I get it that both are AA but I meant an air assets not anti-aircraft. 👍

[-] fluke@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Same could have been said for their day trip. And that saw several helicopters and a couple of fixed wing aircraft getting knocked out the sky.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

You forget that Russia had some garbage trucks lined up as well 🧱

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

We call them tactical landfill launchers.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I wonder if Putin will try destroying the roads to Moscow again.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

And run away to hide in St. Petersburg

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