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Its a shame because they're prominent voice on lemmy. Good on the admins for not tolerating this. I don't understand the point of targeting a person you don't like on the internet just because they said something that upset you and spamming their post with downvotes. If you don't like someone block their ass and be done with it. I agree with the perspective that its harassment (and an incredibly petty ineffective form of it at that)

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[-] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 42 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Good on the admins for not tolerating this.

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How many downvotes exactly are we talking about here?

Is it, like, two hundred? Or is it, like, ten?

Edit: Wait, what the fuck? I got bored and checked it more. How did dbzer0 pick literally the most helpful and drama-free of all possible Lemmy users to ban? As far as I can tell, literally the only thing the dude does is post about cool stuff and chat. I didn't even know he was active as a moderator in any real capacity.

checks profile to see if he actually did confess to mass-downvoting dozens of votes at some user or some other sin that, while objectively not "abusive," might have been at least arguably not ideal or something

One of the first things I found was:

The only reason it’s “Vote Blue no matter who” is because right now, in America’s FPTP system, the Dems are the only real alternative in most areas to the GOP. It’s a pithy saying, not a political essay. The lesson is not “LOYALTY TO COMRADE BIDEN”, but “Don’t throw your vote away on a symbolic action; preventing fascism is more important than virtue signaling to no one, especially since ballots are secret”

Ooooohhh.... oh. Oh.

Good fuckin' God man. dbzer0, we love you, quit trippin'. Just relax. Not everyone you don't like or agree with is "abusive."

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago

Check out PJs LW modlog, it's not all rainbows and sunshine. I know you love to do that anyway.

Nobody accused him of "mass downvoting", that's a strawman. What he was accused of was harassing one of our users, looking him up for the specific purpose of downvoting past posts/comments and to leave salty comments and reports on old threads like a goddam stalker, because he's an angry turbolib who blames the left (and Eugene in particular, for some reason) for the pathetic failure of the corporate-c**k-sucking Democrats to defeat Donald Trump. There is plenty of evidence for all of those things.

At the very least, his behaviour around this has been petty and childish, not great qualities in a mod. And if he was even a slightly reasonable person, he probably wouldn't have quit our instance in a huff, and started up a personal grudge community to stir up pointless drama all because of a 7 day temp ban. Like just how fragile is his ego, anyway? We've all copped short bans without going into a full breakdown about it.

And it's pretty well known by now (except for you it seems) PJ has a bad temper, and that he's been losing his shit more and more lately. He even states as such in his profile. While I do feel empathy for the fact he lives in chronic pain, that's no excuse for harassing one of our users in this manner.

I believe that Eugene was sincere in his complaint, and he was very upset by the situation. PJ has all the power in this situation as a "power mod" and very active poster. Eugene is just a random user who was targeted for his political stance. And the fact you are defending PJ here instead of believing the victim is concerning to me. Much like the "believe women" slogan during the #metoo movement, my default position is to believe my upset users, not to side with the person bullying them. That's just how we roll at dbzer0 and I'm not gonna apologize for it.

I mean, what's the difference between your position here and something like, "Harvey Weinstein has made lots of great movies and nobody else has complained about him, so that woman must be lying"? There is no difference. PJ is just busy trying to launder his bruised reputation imo, and you are helping him with that project.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Phillip somehow claims he doesn't have the time/energy to respond to this, but has been replying to everything else for hours.

I think he just wants to ignore you and say he wins.

Edit: a few days now and he still refuses to. Almost like he's acting in bad faith!

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[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

How did dbzer0 pick literally the most helpful and drama-free of all possible Lemmy users to ban?

Assuming you're not a PJ alt, I was surprised by your comment. It got me thinking.

I'm beginning to wonder if PJ has a psychological disorder. They have stretches of being a nice, helpful person, interspersed with being a melodramatic, rage baiting, borderline troll shit stirrer. They tend to delete many of their shitty comments, showing they know the behaviour is wrong, but are still known and disliked by many for that behaviour.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Exactly, tell me you look at Pug's comment history and their moderation history and tell me he's "drama free".

Notice how Phillip didn't respond to this.

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[-] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Oh, I don't like engaging with him or any of his posts because he tends to be a loudmouth radlib but he is a power user and his posts on other communities are just fine.

It'd be nice if I could, like, put a comment on one of his political posts, though, without it turning into a gigantic, massive thread arguing about the specifics of electoralism and lesser evil and all of that nonsense.

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[-] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

https://lemmy.ml/post/33527767

Yeah, this had put a target on his back in any lefty instance.

Also, following a user from tiny community to tiny community that you're not a part of just to downvote their posts that you disagree with personally because you got into an argument with somebody is a bit extreme and I agree with the admins that they did the right thing.

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

I didn't even know he was active as a moderator in any real capacity.

They're a mod for MeanwhileOnGrad of all places and you've regularly engaged in the same debates they get embroiled in. This feels like some strange feigned ignorance.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

You are dead on. I hate that shit, but it's mega popular here, especially these chronically online weirdos who think they're in a holy war against eachothers opinions.

The dudes who have the time to get in fights and document them, or spend their precious minutes digging through mod logs for evidence. They are telling on themselves.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

The dudes who have the time to get in fights and document them, or spend their precious minutes digging through mod logs for evidence. They are telling on themselves.

And Pug is doing that right now, he made a community dedicated to doing it.

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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah it's feigned ignorance, he knows what he is doing.

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[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

drama-free of all possible Lemmy users

That's... not how I would describe the user.

They're banned from blahaj lemmy for repeated and ongoing gatekeeping and they've got a mile long modlog...

[-] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 26 points 5 days ago

Specifically, he said (among other similar things):

There's an argument to be made for neopronouns in the following cases: - People who don't like 'They' as singular - People who believe there should be a neopronoun(s) that is not simply neutral/neuter, but explicitly for NB identities To the first, I will die on this grammatical hill, but I also acknowledge that it's a matter of taste. If you want to push for Xe/Xim or whichever as gender-neutral-singular, that's fine, and I'll respect your pronouns, but I really do think that 'they' is perfectly serviceable as-is and we should just expand usage of it. If the cultural zeitgeist goes against it, though, it's whatever, if Xe/Xim becomes the new norm, I'll swap to Xe/Xim. To the second, I understand the argument, but I find it non-intuitive. I'll respect the pronouns of people who want a dozen different new pronouns added to the lexicon, but I'll also vehemently argue against the practice. Pronouns are meant to streamline communication, and gendered language itself is something of a relict.

"Gatekeeping." Ban.

This whole thing is stupid. I don't even want to step into or bring up the other big relevant issue that caused strife because it's even stupider than that.

You guys are fuckin' with this guy because he did downvoting, and because he expressed what overall sounded to me like pretty reasonable opinions honestly.

People aren't hating on you here. It's fine. You don't have to turn everyone into an enemy.

[-] scintilla@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 5 days ago

am I misunderstanding the definition of gatekeeping? It sounds like he doesn't like neo-pronouns because the complicate language and he sees them as pointless but will still use them?

Is from when blajah was bending over backwards to defend drag?

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 23 points 5 days ago

Drag is banned from blahaj. Gatekeeping people's identities and pronouns is still against the rules.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Specifically, I wasn't banned for anything regarding pronouns - I was banned from Blahaj, MONTHS after I'd stopped using Blahaj (because I wasn't interested in stirring up trouble breaking another instance's rules) for saying, on dbzer0, that I didn't believe in dragons

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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago

Wait, what the fuck? I got bored and checked it more. How did dbzer0 pick literally the most helpful and drama-free of all possible Lemmy users to ban?

He has literally said he wants to start fights online because he finds it fun, and that hell never stop harassing members because he doesn't like them.

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