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I saw this post titled "Scratch a anti-harm reductionist and a fascist bleeds" (https://lemmy.world/post/33320759)

I commented that "harm reduction" apparently means sending billions in weapons to israel while they commit genocide and shutting down campus protests speaking out against that genocide. I said that seemed pretty fascist to me.

Within an instant, they downvoted my post and banned me. Guess it's my fault for posting in a circlejerk community, but I'm still scratching my head on how that makes me a tankie. Something tells me this mod would be calling in the tanks to suppress any dissent if they could.

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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

PTB.

Setting aside the question of your true ideology, I don’t think people should be banned for their ideology. Bans should be based on behavior.

Ironically I hate tankies as much as anyone and I’m having a big fight with one right now but I still think they should be allowed to participate on the same footing as everyone as long as they follow the rules.

Edit: after reading further this is even worse because the rules are actually pretty much in line with my position. Tankies are explicitly allowed to participate as long as they follow the rules. So this isn’t even supported by anything other than impotent mod rage.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ideology to some extent is behavior, or at least helps determine behavior, when people act in a manner consistent with their own ideological positions. I can see an appeal to "allow all ideas as long as they don't make trouble", but when the nature of most ideologies is to include something along the lines of "it is a morally good thing to spread this ideology to other people" to a lesser or greater extent, and some ideologies require harmful behavior for one to act consistently with it, the conclusion that seems obvious to me is that believing in certain ideologies is itself bad enough behavior for it to be justifiable to exclude those people from a given online community, because such a person will either cause trouble or be a hypocrite. And after all, ideology isn't some immutable inherit trait, a person can change one's ideology and people often do.

All that being said, that particular statement isn't really a clear statement of ideology at all. I disagree with it's implication, but all it really does is demonstrate either a misunderstanding of what harm reduction means, or a viewpoint that is too black-and-white to allow for it, which can be a feature of too many ideological positions to narrow it down.

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