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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago

From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free

It's weird how they always leave off the second part.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 days ago

Because recognizing the slogan as a Zionist invention, which advocates for colonizing Palestine from the river to the sea, would destroy their own narrative.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

recognizing the slogan as a Zionist invention

Clipping off the bit about freedom is a Zionist framing, certainly. But when every expression of Palestinian solidarity is criminalized, there's little to be gained in a debate about "framing". At this point, "Death to Israel" is a perfectly valid and legitimate sentiment. The state is rotten to the core, from its corrupt fascist parliament to its bloody-fisted imperial expansion.

Pretending that "Israel has a right to exist" is any different than some Boer slogan championing White South Africa or a Neo-Confederate rallying cry for the restoration of America's slave-owning past is what really plays into the Zionist's hands.

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 days ago

I guess it explains it further but the kneejerk reaction to that would be to think in this scenario there's no Israel. So what happened to all the Jews

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They'd live side by side with their Palestinian brothers and sisters peacefully and for the betterment of all mankind?

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -3 points 1 day ago

According to the most recent joint survey of the Palestinian–Israeli Pulse in 2023, support for a democratic one-state solution stands at 23% among Palestinians and 20% among Israeli Jews. A non-equal non-democratic one-state solution remains more popular among both populations, supported by 30% of Palestinians and 37% of Israeli Jews. A Palestinian poll in September 2024 revealed that only 10% of respondents supported a single state that would provide equal rights for both Israelis and Palestinians.

It doesn't seem like either side wants an equal (and/or democratic) single state solution hah

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Curious how this poll was taken, given one of the groups is currently being slaughtered by the other.

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 day ago

I don't really know, the source is a The Economist article behind a paywall. The poll mentioned earlier in the quote is from face-to-face interviews of Palestinians and online interviews of Israelis.

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