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[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea

The precise origins of the phrase are disputed. According to the American historian Robin D. G. Kelley, the phrase "began as a Zionist slogan signifying the boundaries of Eretz Israel."

The Israeli-American historian Omer Bartov notes that Zionist usage of such language predates the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 and began with the Revisionist movement of Zionism led by Ze'ev Jabotinsky, which spoke of establishing a Jewish state in all of Palestine

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

And the indigenous reclaiming or reappropriating words and phrases totally never happened in history, ever. "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is fundamentally different from "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty". Notice how the Euroanglo-Zionazis never utter the former phrase.

Understand that the former phrase is more than just a reappropration to the latter, but a call for the liberation of indigenous land from occupation by settler-colonialists. It's no dogwhistle, and it is very crystal clear what it means: not one inch for Euroanglo-Zionazis.

Likewise, it's very crystal clear what Euroanglo-Zionazis mean with their Lebensraum ass phrase: total wipeout of indigenous land and its people in favor of Euroanglo-Zionazis.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Well yes that is directly what happened. Both Israeli and Arabic are fundamentally not English languages, so the phrase "From the river to the sea" is always a translation.

The Palestinians saw the Israelis using the phrase and hijacked it, finishing it differently as a form of resistance. What many people get wrong though is that they claim only the first part of the phrase is already against Israel, while that part of the slogan was invented by Israel.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If anything, it's a testament to why the full emancipatory slogan should be said instead of simply the first half

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