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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Rooskie91@discuss.online to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world

Even if we take into consideration that 90% (out of 25) could be lying (they aren't), that's still ~3 women he assaulted.

Edit: Damn y'all, thanks for that old internet feeling I keep coming back to Lemmy for. Not a girl in sight in these comments.

Is testifying under oath not considered evidence? There have been so many credible lawsuits against this guy for sexual assault. Honestly what are these files going to prove that we don't already have plenty of evidence for?

And lastly, do you have any idea what going after a rich powerful man for sexually assaulting you does to your life? Why the fuck would anybody put themselves through that if they weren't absolutely sure they had a credible case? Some of the plaintiffs in these cases had their lives and their family's lives threatened and disrupted.

Welp, to the bottom with me I suppose.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Believing women dosnt mean just acting blindly on a womans word and nothing more.

Believing women means intiating proper procedures, starting investigations, and gathering the facts and evidence, impartially and without prejudice.

So yes, We need the epstein files, even if we believe women, because they are evidence that, in all likelyhood, supports their claims.

These files should have been handled a decade ago, but the fact that they've spent so much time and energy trying to alter and hide them shows how damning they really are, that even after having months of time to alter and remove Trumps name, that they still were not able to and had to emergency switch to "Epstein files? What files? No such files exist!"

Convicting based upon words sworn under oath and with no facts to back it up but feelings and outage has lead to a lot of overturned verdicts and innocent lives ruined.

[-] CodingCarpenter@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 weeks ago

This can still ruin someone's life though. As soon as there are whispers of an accusation that are official it's over. There needs to be a better way.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

What way is better than investigating allegations impartially? Do you know of something better that wouldn't require someone to be psychic, or require everyone coming to some nigh impossible position where no one lies?

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

I agree with your first sentence but then you went off on a mocking-tangent instead of promoting an actual conversation that's important. We see investigations used both politically and socially (perp-walks are one way law enforcement berates during an investigation, also giving press releases/public announcements before all the facts are collected). There are ways which police act respectfully during an investigation when it's someone they like, a more neutral way for EVERYONE can be achieved.

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