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Even if we take into consideration that 90% (out of 25) could be lying (they aren't), that's still ~3 women he assaulted.

Edit: Damn y'all, thanks for that old internet feeling I keep coming back to Lemmy for. Not a girl in sight in these comments.

Is testifying under oath not considered evidence? There have been so many credible lawsuits against this guy for sexual assault. Honestly what are these files going to prove that we don't already have plenty of evidence for?

And lastly, do you have any idea what going after a rich powerful man for sexually assaulting you does to your life? Why the fuck would anybody put themselves through that if they weren't absolutely sure they had a credible case? Some of the plaintiffs in these cases had their lives and their family's lives threatened and disrupted.

Welp, to the bottom with me I suppose.

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[-] SomethingBlack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Can you tell me how this is relevant to the point I made? How any of that suggests something other than what I said?

If you want to have a conversation, let's have a conversation but don't throw data that is irrelevant to the point I made while dodging the point I made.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

If you want to have a conversation, let’s have a conversation

How do you have a conversation about the trustworthiness of an alleged rape victim if you throw the rape kit in the trash, file the complaint as "unfounded" based on gut instinct, and turn a blind eye to well-financed smear campaigns by serial abusers?

[-] SomethingBlack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Because as far as the law is concerned, they ARE NOT a victim until they are proven to be just as the accused IS NOT a perpetrator until they are proven to be. It has absolutely nothing to do with "trustworthyness", and all to do with due process.

Destroying this legitimately good and absolutely fundamental part of the deeply flawed legal system will not fix this problem. It will only create more. Rage against the machine all you want, I'm absolutely with you. But do so with some critical thought behind it.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Destroying this legitimately good and absolutely fundamental part of the deeply flawed legal system

It's so crazy to talk about "innocent unless presumed guilty" as a policy that exists in western society, when we are drowning in cases to the contrary.

What sets rape apart from, say, immigration violations or illegal drug use or terrorism charges or subway fare evasion or CEO murdering isn't this sacred commitment to "innocent until proven guilty". It's the number of people and the volume of surveillance equipment dedicated to investigating and prosecuting these crimes.

Treat allegations of sexual assault with even a fraction of the seriousness put forward to prosecute minor traffic violations. Maybe we can clear that mountainous backlog of uninvestigated rape claims within the victims' lifetimes.

[-] SomethingBlack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's so crazy to talk about "innocent unless presumed guilty" as a policy that exists in western society, when we are drowning in cases to the contrary.

That is patently false. This really makes me think that you have absolutely no concept of what you're talking about. The "court of public opinion" often assumes guilt based off of an accusation and that is exactly why "believe women" is so dangerous.

What sets rape apart from, say, immigration violations or illegal drug use or terrorism charges or subway fare evasion or CEO murdering isn't this sacred commitment to "innocent until proven guilty".

I agree, and this should stay exactly as it is. It's is one part that is unquestionably beneficial to literally EVERYONE.

Treat allegations of sexual assault with even a fraction of the seriousness put forward to prosecute minor traffic violations. Maybe we can clear that mountainous backlog of uninvestigated rape claims within the victims' lifetimes.

I absolutely agree. The lack of investigation is the issue, not the fact that women are implicitly believed when they make an accusation. No one should have that privilege.

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