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[-] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 110 points 1 day ago

"The worst possible situation is to have a non-programmer vibe code a large project that they intend to maintain. This would be the equivalent of giving a credit card to a child without first explaining the concept of debt.”" Vibe Code is Legacy Code

The crash out from AI when all this debt starts to catch up is going to be so massive, not just in terms of market losses for the rich, but literal lost ability to think critically among possibly an entire generation of people depending on how long the grifting can keep going.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 12 hours ago

The crash out from AI when all this debt starts to catch up is going to be so massive, not just in terms of market losses for the rich, but literal lost ability to think critically among possibly an entire generation of people depending on how long the grifting can keep going.

It's going to be catastrophic.

[-] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

but literal lost ability to think critically among possibly an entire generation of people depending on how long the grifting can keep going.

Eh, have some faith in today's youth. They're brighter than you give them credit for, if nothing else because they've got records of the experiences of other recent generations.

If I'm that kid I'm pulling in plenty of cash from some dipshit tech bro to fund my own goals or just fuck around and have fun while he gets legacy code that's already out there and isn't bright enough to figure out. Also, he's in high school, there's no real price he'll pay when the scam comes undone, he's just a kid.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

Eh, have some faith in today’s youth. They’re brighter than you give them credit for, if nothing else because they’ve got records of the experiences of other recent generations.

Just because the records are there, doesn't mean anyone is going to actually look at them.

How many generations ago was WWII? Seems like everyone already forgot the lessons from that one...

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

They're brighter than you give them credit for, if nothing else because they've got records of the experiences of other recent generations.

I'd like to think most people learn from history, but they clearly don't.

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Hah. History taught to them with what public education money?

[-] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Well I do have faith in the youth, its just the elder capitalists that are looking to exploit them I'm worried about. I'm worried there will be a point when taking the time to actually learn how things work will put someone at a disadvantage under capitalism because those who are willing to "vibe code" their way into jobs will have the advantage of stuff that works "right now" instead of working "well", and the people doing the hiring and running the companies are all about "right now".

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 18 hours ago

It was already like that! Before it was vibe coding, it was dissembling in interview, leaning on your colleagues, and switching job every 3-6 months. But let's not pretend there won't also always be a class of people who actually find the challenge of programming to be interesting. People aren't gonna suddenly change their nature just because there are new tools to inflate yourself with. An analogy might be that nobody knows how to calculate trig fns from first principles any more because calculators exist - this is patently false.

[-] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

I'm not saying there won't be people who have interest in learning things for fun, I'm just thinking if it gets bad enough those sort of people will have a hard time competing with "vibe coders" for the same jobs. When the crash finally does come, those real developers will be in huge demand of course, but the question is how long will that take, and what kind of problems will we be creating up till then.

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago

Tbh I have always had limited sympathy for people who want to be 'developers' but can't be arsed to actually learn how to do the job. Will it suck for them? Yeah, probably. I kinda think they deserve it though.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

It's going to be unthinkable. There were memes about managing legacy code but that was from people that at least knew what 'objects' and 'functions' were. This...this will be horrendous.

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