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"Rust's compiler prevents common bugs" So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it. What is it with the rust crowd that they have to come acrosslike people trying to convert your religion at your front door?

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[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sadly, it is a detachment from reality that is entirely normal, even typical. In all walks of life.

What I still find surprising, even though normal, is how technical people can push actual facts and evidence right out of their world view.

Sure, 70% of the bugs in C++ code bases are memory rated according to multiple sources. So let me aggressively and confidently berate this idiot that says the Rust compiler is doing something useful.

You do not have to use either language to see how idiotic this is. Even if you accept that this guy has “the skill” to make compiler help redundant, he has no point at all unless he thinks that “typical” C++ users have that same level of skill. And, provably and trivially researched—they do not. Being this wrong makes him, as self-evidenced, incompetent by definition.

All he proves in the end is that he is angry (and I guess not a fan of Rust).

“Angry and incompetent” is sadly a much more common trope than the ones he tires off.

[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

There's some weird effects with language-specific bug rates.

In old Java, most uncaught exceptions are NullpointerExceptions, because most other exceptions used to be checked. Can't not catch a checked exception.

So they made Kotlin, where NullpointerExceptions are the only type of checked exceptions. Now there are no unhandled NPEs anymore but now you get tons of other exceptions.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

Oh yes, it's so very human nature. But damn.

Most coders get the message at least a bit, I think. Other engineers have a reputation for massive egotism, software engineers don't really.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Other engineers have a reputation for massive egotism, software engineers don’t really.

That's a joke right?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Well, it's possible I'm missing something, or that there's a different reputation actually in the industry, since I'm an amateur. The first stereotypes I think of are unkempt, caffeine-dependent and socially inept.

When I've seen people asking for help online, traditional engineers seem much more likely to flex their credentials and then not actually answer. Although there's definitely software examples as well.

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