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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's the tankie "It's not a genocide, no I'm not denying that people are getting murdered I'm saying that they had it coming for reasons other than being of a particular group" kind of genocide denial-support.

About the only thing that makes tankies not technically fascist is that they come up with elaborate rationalisations of why everything they do serves the common good. They manage to rationalise any and all human rights abuses and atrocities as "necessary evil".

Once upon a time a German lyricist/composer wrote a song satirising that kind of attitude. The GDR's ruling party adopted is as their hymn, unironically. Do watch it it's glorious in its insanity.

[-] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Most far-right fascists also make up excuses for the genocides they support - the Nazis said that Jewish people were responsible for the collapse of the Weimar economy (and a lot of other bullshit) for example.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah but fascists don't believe it, or even put much effort in those arguments. It's merely a signal to their supporters saying "Yep we hate Jews".

And I do grant tankies the point that they don't inherently hate Uyghurs -- what they hate is there being cultural aspects not under their control as that means a current of mass psychology outside of party control. The most they will countenance is "Socialism with Uyghur characteristics" next to "Socialism with Chinese characteristics", under the condition that it's about weave patterns of traditional hats or something, not loyalty to the party's prerogative of interpretation: If Bejing thinks a particular weave pattern is counter-revolutionary then it is, Uyghurs don't get a say.

[-] iie@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

what they hate is there being cultural aspects not under their control

china claims they were interning uighurs to prevent extremist terrorism and separatism, not control culture. xinjiang shares a border with afghanistan. the claim is that uighurs were going off to fight in syria and other regions, then coming back to start shit at home. china claims the mass detainment of uighurs was to provide language and vocational training to counter the sway of jihadists returning from the middle east.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

One would expect people to volunteer for both of those things if they're actually what China claims them to be.

In reality the parents are sent to forced labour camps while the kids are sent to boarding schools to be de-Uighurised.

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