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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 day ago

you still need to exercise and restrict calories to lose weight on keto. For weight loss, it mainly makes the process easier; if you eat more than you burn you still won’t lose weight. I like it, it’s a useful tool, but it’s not magic.

I don't think this is a good way to do keto. After the initial onboarding, hunger and satisfaction signals will work properly and people wont overeat.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

1: While the signals will correct for most people, I'm personally not willing to claim it's guaranteed

2: There's no harm in measuring caloric intake and burn even if the signals correct

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 day ago

1: While the signals will correct for most people, I’m personally not willing to claim it’s guaranteed

Fair!

2: There’s no harm in measuring caloric intake and burn even if the signals correct

At least with the people i've helped do keto, I find doing a initial over feeding of whole keto food is very beneficial in fighting the initial cravings and adaptation phase.

No harm in measuring, but doing a caloric deficit is a complication

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

At least with the people i've helped do keto, I find doing a initial over feeding of whole keto food is very beneficial in fighting the initial cravings and adaptation phase.

Huh, interesting. I've generally heard the recommendation of fasting beforehand instead.

Personally, I suspect the quickest way to switch is to do intense exercise between the last non-keto meal and the first keto meal. It'd burn through a lot of the glucose glycogen stored in the liver and muscles, forcing the liver to release ketones immediately instead of waiting a day for them to deplete normally. Though you'd probably get the shakes from hypoglycemia in the meantime.

For me, I've just switched to keto foods and let the switch happen on it's own over the course of a few hours. No need to rush it. Thankfully I have a harder time going off of keto than getting on

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 23 hours ago

Huh, interesting. I’ve generally heard the recommendation of fasting beforehand instead.

Fasting is the fastest (heh) way to get into a ketogenic metabolism! It's true. I'm just optimizing for minimal cravings when people switch.

I suspect the quickest way to switch is to do intense exercise between the last non-keto meal and the first keto meal. It’d burn through a lot of the glucose glycogen stored in the liver and muscles, forcing the liver to release ketones immediately instead of waiting a day for them to deplete normally. Though you’d probably get the shakes from hypoglycemia in the meantime.

Fasting + intense cardio would deplete the glycogen reserves it's true, but gluconeogensis will replace them. I think the key is to just keep insulin levels down and give the body enough time to adapt. Some people struggle with cravings, some people temptation, some people just need to get it done - so they will all have different strategies

For me, I’ve just switched to keto foods and let the switch happen on it’s own over the course of a few hours. No need to rush it. Thankfully I have a harder time going off of keto than getting on

That is awesome! Well done.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

I don't know if this is simply tone not transferring through text, but it really feels like you're talking down to me in this last comment. You haven't told me anything I didn't already know and congratulated me on something I've been doing for 7 years. It's a bit odd.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 11 hours ago

yeah, sorry, not talking down. Genuinely glad you have done something so healthy for a long time.

I'm excited about keto, I even moderate a keto community on lemmy !ketogenic@discuss.online

I just wanted to talk about keto, sorry if I didn't share anything you didn't already know.

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