lemmy.world had difficulty handling new account registration when I tried moving from Reddit in June 2023, so I tried to find/join other instances. People said "it doesn't matter which instance you join."
Oh it definitely mattered.
"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
Are these dipshits still a problem around here? Since I joined, I've blocked hundreds of communities, instances, and users. I don't see them anymore
My first month on lemmy a mod on .ml sent me a death threat and banned me from a community for basically stating that given the option between Trump and Kamala I voted Kamala.
So that was a fun interaction
How many times did they use the word Capitalism and Liberal?
Don't forget Imperialism!
Holy trinity of tankie attempts to save a losing argument
Yes
The ML admins are the developers and maintainers of Lemmy codebase and hosts of Join Lemmy. I have a feeling it's gonna be real hard to get rid of them.
The solution is piefed
I've been procrastinating that for a while now, probably time to move over to piefed.world
You saying the enlightened centrists are planning a fascist counter revolution?
The irony of naming an instance .world and then forcing western hegemonial culture on it. Just like in the real world.
I agree that the West looks at the world with a western lens and that is ignorant. But why are you calling liberals fascist?
I didn‘t call anyone fascist directly, but rather described what they are doing in reality as fascist — in a facetious way, sure, but nonetheless the truth®.
IMO, enlightened centrists are not equal to liberals, as that kind of category describes people that reject any kind of extreme position, while also laying claim on what is and what isn‘t the right thing to do or think and where these borders are to be drawn, all while being unable to break through their own biases and misconceptions … and always (!) end up personally attacking their opponent or argue against strawmen.
Autocratic extremists in their own right. Destructive overall and enablers of fascist thought and therefore enablers of fascist realities.
Here, in this very thread, we have folks, that are very likely economically oppressed themselves, but also refuse to actually educate themselves or can‘t stand to get educated by people that genuinely try to improve society. They rather ridicule the people, that use words like „capitalism“ or „imperialism“, as if those words weren‘t real things that shape the world we all live in, trying to „win“ in the name of their perspective, while also ignoring half the equation. ~~Or that guy that downright wants to „nuke all leftist communities“. But surely, no fascists in sight.~~
Link these comments
@metallic_substance@lemmy.world calls the whole instance, or rather their users dipshits, has no argument, only ad hominem.
@finitebanjo@lemmy.world offers insults involving cocks, not sure what‘s up with that, but that sure is another ad hominem without any argument.
@finitebanjo@lemmy.world just doesn‘t take reality seriously, but thinks he‘s being clever by making fun of people that argue against capitalism.
@gabbath@lemmy.world has similar delusions about imperialism
Both are unserious people that have not a single original thing to offer, except ridicule towards more serious people.
I absolutely misread the comment about „the best way to nuke any lefty community“ by @Gsus4@feddit.nl and therefore edited it out of my original comment.
Anyway, the observation is, that this community is oozing with toxic behaviour, circlejerking on another group of people that they obviously don‘t even try to understand, but are afraid of and want to exlude or „get rid off“. Void of any arguments. This shit is what ignorant people do.
@goat@sh.itjust.works (you, mod) stays superficial in their reaction on the content itself only to construct a strawman about a group that wasn‘t mentioned with an argument that wasn‘t made. — but, this might have been an honest interpretation, alright.
Btw, goat, what is „ignorance“ in its political manifestation, if not the foundation of fascism? We should do better. You should do better. This place is a disgrace to any kind of intellectual discourse and the fediverse as a whole. You‘re modding a community driven by blind hatred.
I like how you're calling people who post a pig shitting on itself as a "more serious people"
But how do any of these comments support your claim that liberalism is fascism? And how are they ignorant exactly? Saying that ignorance creates fascism is extremely vague, that can mean anything.
If you want a more serious discussion, we can certainly have one for a bit, you can start
Not sure exactly what your point is other then displaying your rotten character.
You‘re babysitting a community, that exists and thrives only to poke fun at another set of people they‘ve learned to disagree with, even dehumanizing them, wanting to get rid of them, and you‘re participating and replicating it. The justification is „documenting“, but all you‘re documenting is your very limited world view and your malice.
What’s a person to think of this kind of mindset?
Tell me, because that‘s the purpose of this thread.
Hm, yes indeed, since ignorance implies a lack of knowledge, this might not be the most precise term. What’s observable here is more of a willful set of actions and beliefs that‘s actively fostered: dehumanization, tribalism, hate, bigotry, malevolance, eliminationism.
Ignorance goes along with that, but might be a step removed. Let‘s call it wilful ignorance then. What it leads to other than fascism? Maybe think about that yourself, instead of asking outsiders, that you don‘t take seriously anyway.
Good bait. Bad reading comprehension. You’re a troll and acting in bad faith. Let‘s discuss, once you grow up.
E: Earlier you said this, too bad you didn‘t expand on it:
What did you actually mean here? What is ignorant about it? What are the consequences? What is this „western lens“ actually doing with this community? And why are you running a community built on ignorance then? Classic Lib strategy of saying things that sound progressive, but upon closer inspection are empty shells to hide their ignorance?
I can't hardly understand what you're saying with all of that dictator cock in your mouth.
you're definitely a .world user
I have the suspicion, that you are indeed actually unable to understand. I‘m so sorry. But you seem to know what a cock is, nice! Guess that‘s something, you go!
I just recently got temp banned for .ml again for saying I didn't like Stalin because of the purges and gulags and cult of personality dictatorship, so make of that what you will. Either that or just using the word tankie is treated as hate speech because it was the infamous "Reason: Rule 1" with no further context. I was actually having an enjoyable and possibly productive conversation about communist theory too, but apparently that's not allowed.
We need block lists that are based on data gathered from user block lists
Yes, please! What a great idea
Good luck getting it approved by upstream Lemmy
They are tankies remember
How do you guys get so many negative interactions? I've been on Lemmy for more than a year and I haven't blocked any community, instance or user. It's still enjoyable. I see the occasional Russia / China shill who gets downvoted to hell and that's it.