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Uncovering the Deceptive Logic That Exposes Jordan Peterson - YouTube (youtu.be)
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New from Framing Logic, who quickly became one of my favourite channels.

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I agree with him, but he's wrong imo on a few of things so far, I'll keep editing.

  • You do have faith in science, they're called theories.
  • Also, religious texts are updated in Judaism in the Talmud, it's constantly being updated.
  • Every time a new form of Christianity comes along, you're getting a revised version of the text and basis behind it.
  • He's proving that texts change by using the King James version, since there are older versions that are known like the Sanai Bible.

Edit: I appreciate that he's showing how to break down the arguments, that's great for people who don't understand that process. Especially the poisoning the well, which is most of Jordon's arguments in general.

[-] jason@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You're getting a lot of pushback here, and I'm not sure if you truly don't understand why or if you are trolling/being disingenuous on purpose. Webster's definition of faith:

1

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty

"lost faith in the company's president"

b(1) : fidelity to one's promises

b(2) : sincerity of intentions

"acted in good faith"

2

a(1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God

a(2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion

b(1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof

"clinging to the faith that her missing son would one day return"

b(2) : complete trust

3

something that is believed especially with strong conviction especially : a system of religious beliefs

"the Protestant faith"

None of these definitions of faith fit science. Scientific theory is not faith in the slightest. Scientific theories cannot exist without evidence and observation. Faith has no such requirement.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

b(2) : sincerity of intentions

this one

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

That refers to duty or people, a scientific theory is neither of those.

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