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[-] MrTrono@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

And awesome to see how effective it was, glad we got the regimen to rethink its policies... Oh wait they doubled down.

[-] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 6 months ago

What are you trying to accomplish here?

Everyone else: next one is September 1st.
https://www.fiftyfifty.one/

[-] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

I think he’s correct in stating this administration won’t care if we protest or how large it is. What we hope happens is that the protests get more momentum amongst the politically inert. That momentum could build us up to a general strike which would have more influence once the capitalists bottom line gets impacted. Maybe. IDK. This all sucks.

[-] MrTrono@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago

I've been to all the 50501 protests in my area as a show of support, but I'm not trying to accomplish anything. I'm just of the opinion that protests without action accomplish nothing. I am all into exercises, some real civil disobedience.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Our great grandparents armed themselves and took over the factory floors. We need some of that energy.

[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 12 points 6 months ago

That's why there needs to be a clear line that people know exists between performative protest and concrete protest.

For anyone confused:

Performative protests, like the No Kings protests, serve to:

  • Get people energized to either take concrete action or donate/join organizations that can
  • Reduce feelings of hopelessness/despair
  • Make people more aware who were previously not following the news much if all

Concrete protests actually delay or stop the bad thing in question (e.g. blocking exits to ICE facilities)

A lot of people are hoping No Kings and similar protests will stop Trump. They won't. Of course they won't. But you can bet there's a lot more people donating to charities that either legally fight the administration's actions, or disrupt fascist policies on the ground, and a lot of people end up breaking off from these more liberal protests to later go to more concrete ones.

They're not worthless, but nothing beats direct, concrete action.

https://beautifultrouble.org/toolbox/tool/dont-expect-a-concrete-outcome-from-a-symbolic-action

[-] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 6 points 6 months ago

So double down right back at them. What are you doing to stop what's happening? How else should we disrupt the regime's efforts? What do you recommend? Or do you think shitting on people's efforts is helpful somehow and will lead to a good outcome?

[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 1 points 6 months ago

My mom was a huge speeder. She almost never went below 10 over the limit. Any time someone told her something along the lines of "The sign says 60, and you're going 80." she'd respond along the lines of "Well, good thing signs can't stop me then, huh?"

She'd always slow down if she thought she saw a cop, though.

I always think about that when people talk about protests as if they're the final step and not just the warning before a revolt. If you want self-centered people, like the ones running our government, to listen to your signs, you need them to fear what comes afterward if they don't.

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