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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Fun fact:

Genesis is the history of the Jews, not the history of human beings.

So when Cain and Seth (nobody remembers Seth!) were married, they married outside the faith.

Cain's wife came from Nod. Seth's wife isn't really mentioned.

Abel's wife is not mentioned, he may have been murdered first.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm not sure when the Torah was compiled/written, but this fun fact may be related to the other fun fact that the religion that Judaism evolved from was monolatrist or henotheistic. That is, they only worshipped their one god, but unlike modern monotheists they didn't reject the idea that other gods existed. Much like how a Greek who believes in Zeus and Poseidon might not have any problem believing that Ra and Isis exist, they're just not "the gods I worship".

It's not clear precisely when the early Yahwism transitioned into being monotheistic like they are today. It was probably a fairly gradual process.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

The cult of Yahweh. Yahweh started as one of the the 70 cananite gods, specifically god of storms and war. The cult of Yahweh believed Yahweh was also El, the head god. The founding of the cult was attributed to Abraham. They built the first temple to him, which was destroyed when they were enslaved. Then in exile it transformed from Yahweh being El to Yahweh being the only god, the full transformation happening with Moses. They go to the promised land, the second temple is built, Rome conqueres the Levant, the messiah arrives and fulfills profecies, dies, jews rebel, the second temple is destroyed, and everyone scatters.

[-] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

You tend to see the switch in the second temple period. At that point, Judaism was heavily influenced by Persian Zoroastrianism, which is expressly monotheist. There may be some pollination in both directions, too.

[-] Embargo@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

This is the weirdest way to find out where "Kane" and "Nod" come from in command and conquer.

[-] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The game hints that Kane is literally the Cain of the Bible.

"Nod" really just means "wandering". Cain went to the land of wandering around doing shit.

[-] JonsJava@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

TIL! Thanks for sharing

[-] CannedTuna@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah they refer to them as the sons of God marrying the daughters of man, defined as two different peoples. They also mention the Nephilim, or giants being around as well.

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

But then how were Cain's wife's ancestors created (in Nod?), if not from Adam? Is there at least one other act of creation? I get if it's not mentioned, but surely someone has written fanfic to fill in the gaps.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Again, Adam and Eve weren't the first people, they were the first Jews. It makes more sense if you catch the proper tense of the first line of Genesis:

In Hebrew:
 א  בְּרֵאשִׁית,
בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים,
אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם,
וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.

In Latin:
in principio creavit Deus caelum et terram.

The English you know:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

The English you don't know:
In the beginning the Gods created the heaven and the earth.

Latin picks up the plural correctly. The King James version does not.

So you might ask, well, wait, if there are other Gods and other people, why aren't they mentioned?

Surprise! They ARE:

Exodus 20:2-3:

"2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

In other words, there ARE other Gods, but I am yours and you are mine and we are all together, goo goo gajoob!

Wait, that's not right. ;)

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 0 points 4 months ago

in principio creavit Deus caelum et terram.

There is no plural in Latin either. Deus and creavit are both singular.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I may have misremembered the Latin angle, but the Hebrew is solid. From the excellent "Asimov's Guide to the Bible":

Asimov is also the guy who makes the "Begats" chapter make sense:

[-] jcb201625@fedia.io -1 points 4 months ago

Wrong.. God created the beings in heaven.. Angeles etc.. he made some princes etc… He made them rule over certain parts of the heaven the earth and so on.. god Dosen’t want you worshiping g them he wants to be worshipped that’s why he said you shall have. No other gods before me..

Greatest commandment is Hear O Israel the lord is one god!

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