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Double-tap strike suggests killing of civilians, rescue workers and journalists deliberate and not a mistake

Archived version: https://archive.is/20250825170303/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/25/israel-attack-gaza-hospital-may-constitute-war-on-many-fronts


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[-] Flyswat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

may constitute

They're still not sure.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 8 months ago

I think it has more to do with the ICC. Genocide is a criminal offense in the ICC but parties of question are always innocent until proven guilty.

The ICC case will be interesting

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not legally

I'm really hope it gets classified as a genocide soon though as the human suffering is reaching a extreme level

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

That's a completely ridiculous and erroneous standard that would mean there have not been any genocides, since the ICJ has never ruled that there has been one.

Not only have multiple human rights organizations established that it is genocide, including Doctors Without Borders, the vast majority of genocide and Holocaust scholars also concluded that it is without a doubt a genocide.

The only people clinging on to the notion that it isn't a genocide, are the ones doing or supporting the genocide

Israel's Genocide on Occupied Palestine

Our first-hand observations of the medical and humanitarian catastrophe inflicted on Gaza are consistent with the descriptions provided by an increasing number of legal experts and organizations concluding that genocide is taking place in Gaza.

It examines the killing of civilians, damage to and destruction of civilian infrastructure, forcible displacement, the obstruction or denial of life-saving goods and humanitarian aid, and the restriction of power supplies. It analyses Israel’s intent through this pattern of conduct and statements by Israeli decision-makers. It concludes that Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

On 26 January 2024, the ICJ said that it was plausible that Israel had breached the Genocide Convention. As an emergency measure, it ordered Israel ensure that its army refrained from genocidal acts against Palestinians.

The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January.

So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide.

More than 800 scholars of international law and genocide have signed a public statement arguing that the Israeli military may be committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip as the total siege and relentless airstrikes continue to inflict devastation on the occupied territory.

An independent United Nations expert warned Monday that "Israel's genocidal violence risks leaking out of Gaza and into the occupied Palestinian territory as a whole" as Western governments, corporations, and other institutions keep up their support for the Israeli military, which stands accused of grave war crimes in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

Our documentation encompasses over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.

I, Lee Mordechai, a historian by profession and an Israeli citizen, bear witness in this document to the situation in Gaza as events are unfolding. The enormous amount of evidence I have seen, much of it referenced later in this document, has been enough for me to believe that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian population in Gaza. I explain why I chose to use the term below. Israel’s campaign is ostensibly its reaction to the Hamas massacre of Oct. 7, 2023, in which war crimes and crimes against humanity were committed within the context of the longstanding conflict between Israelis and Palestinians that can be dated back to 1917 or 1948 (or other dates). In all cases, historical grievances and atrocities do not justify additional atrocities in the present. Therefore, I consider Israel’s response to Hamas’ actions on Oct. 7 utterly disproportionate and criminal.

Others: AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

We're only talking about the ICC, not common sense, not other orgs.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

The ICC prosecutes individuals, such as the arrest warrants for netanyahu and multiple other Israeli officials for war crimes. The ICJ prosecutes countries, such as the current case on the Gaza genocide.

The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January.

That was the previous year. The genocidal actions and statements have only escalated. Acting as if the court case exists in a vacuum, or that it can only be a genocide after the case is closed, only serves to run defense for Israel while the genocide continues unabated.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 8 months ago

I didn't mean this as a personal attack. The world is not black and white. You can believe something to be genocide without it legally being genocide under international law.

For the record I firmly believe Israel is committing genocide. That doesn't make official though.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

By your logic there have been zero 'official' genocides.

Reading even a single report makes it obvious how exactly it is a genocide under international law

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