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Texas House Gives Final Approval to GOP Gerrymander
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Why did the Dems come back?
Worthless stunts don't fucking help.
I hear this a lot, and part of me understands the sentiment. But it's important to keep in mind that these are state level politicians, not national. Representing their districts is a part time job. Most of them have jobs like attorney, doctor, business owner employing other people, etc. To stay absent would mean not only leaving these responsibilities, but it's also leaving their spouses and kids. On top of that the state government started imposing $500/day fines. Then they sued and froze the accounts of Beto O'Rourke's fundraiser to help them meet their expenses (that was just overturned by a judge this afternoon).
When it became clear that other states were willing to redraw their maps to cancel out Texas's naked power grab, it changed the calculus. They achieved the objective of drawing attention to the issue and they got other states to commit to action so that even if Texas redraws the map, it won't matter on a national level. They've already paid significant personal cost. How much should they be expected to pay? Should their families/clients/patients/employees also suffer?
I don't know that there's a right answer. Maybe this is the sort of tough call that defines real rebellions from performative ones. I do think that it's easy to criticize from a distance because for most of us the principles and ideas are abstract. But for them the costs are already being felt in concrete ways.
Excellent reply
I will always appreciate the nuanced take on things. No matter the subject. So often people are so vapidly polarized on seemingly every topic under the sun, so it’s refreshing to see this. Thank you.
Are these not desperate times?
Nothing that exists, does so without first passing through the framework of nuance.
Speaking in a more meta-context, this is exactly it in the political world. In playing politics, you gotta play the political game. There are plenty of things to criticize the dems for, but man do most people in semi-recent history tend to oversimplify things. It's just not as simple as throwing a filibuster at 'the other side' every now and then, you've gotta consider political capital, optics, legal maneuvers, precedence, etc. If you run up on the congressional floor and decide to filibuster all on your own with no support, you're just a jackass wasting everyone's time, likely harming your own cause in the process. Politics isn't speeches back and forth with some money thrown around, it's about building and wisely wielding social power. That includes knowing how to build solidarity with others in other constituencies.
If you're not willing to sacrifice your freedom so that many more may have it, it's just a performance rebellion. They get credit when they start being behind bars for their convictions. The rest of us aren't getting that luxury. We've already seen that concessions don't get us anything in return. Every inch you give them is another inch they've taken.
What are you doing?
Not acting like I'm rebelling when I'm not actually doing anything. Wanna try again? Remind me how that vote went again? They're rebellion amounted to... what exactly? Oh yeah, a week delay.
So yeah, you get credit for the things you do. They did next to nothing. They aren't rebellion leaders. That title belongs to someone else, not them.
The math is simple: when presented with obstacles that would hurt them personally, they surrendered. They were all talk until there were consequences and then backed down. That's not any definition of rebellion leader I've ever heard.
Chairforce One really showing up to critique texas state dems. These aren't US senators. This is the minor party in state house where as far as I know they haven't held majority in decades.
The stunt worked about as well as it could. they got media coverage and Newsom displayed a counterplan.
I for sure ain't paying their fees. I doubt some billionaire did either.
Thet brought attention to the issue. In opposition, sometimes that's all you can do.
At least they stood up to do something more than thoughts and prayers.
Because it was all for show.