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[-] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 184 points 1 year ago

I like that you actually can ls in power shell now

[-] ox0r@jlai.lu 23 points 1 year ago

Yeah but tbh i really despise powershells syntax. But i'm happy it is pretty powerful.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

i’m often amazed at microsoft’s ability to take a useful product and make it agonizing to use

[-] ______@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, bash syntax isnt amazing either

[-] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago
[-] ______@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I've said this before and got grilled for it but I wish there was a shell scripting language that doesn't have arcane syntax.

[-] echindod@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Fish? I like fish.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Can anyone name any living language, scripting or otherwise, without arcane syntax?

[-] fkn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Perl, no wait you said without arcane syntax....

[-] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

Bash came out decades ago and powershell is brand new. It doesn't really have an excuse to suck.

[-] ______@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I hope I didn't come across as defending ps. PS sucks and whoever decided to have functions use capital case with dashes in between needs to have their brain scanned

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do a lot of work in PS and I don't find it that bad. But you forgot what's even dumber about their function naming conventions.

Function names are supposed to be a single word verb, then the dash, then the rest. But not any verb, you're supposed to use one from PS's list of acceptable ones which has some really weird omissions. And they break their own single word verb convention with "acceptable verbs" ConvertTo and ConvertFrom (ConvertTo-SecureString, ConvertFrom-Json), which are the only exception to one word verbs before the dash.

Function names are definitely one of my biggest peeves with it.

Additionally, their basic comparison operators are dumb as hell. How is "-le" better or clearer in meaning that "<="? -ne instead of !=, but == isn't just -e, it's -eq. And you can't slap an n in front of other comparators for not, -nle isn't a thing. You gotta wrap the whole comparison in parentheses and slap an ! on the front or slap -not in front. But don't try to do !-le, because that's also not a thing. It's not terrible but I refuse to believe that -eq is more readable than ==

[-] ______@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Functionally speaking, PS is a really good shell language. Its minor things about it that I dont enjoy. As you said, it feels like the language design has some poor decisions.

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