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https://lemmy.ml/post/35472063

The original post is about a supposedly privacy focused keyboard that sends your voice and messages to OpenAI for speech to text. I posted saying I use the FUTO Keyboard as it's open source and does voice to text on-device. There unsued a discussion about if the FUTO Keyboard is open source, as the license prohibits commercial use. After people sharing thoughts on this for a day, the mods removed the thread for being offtopic and promoting proprietary software. Even if you think that the license prohibiting commercial use makes it not open source, it certainly doesn't make it proprietary.

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

"Roughly, it means that the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. "

Which is what that software does. Which is why I'm confused.

Are they scammers that claim to publish their code but don't?

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

People can't change and distribute it under their license

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They said you can. The restriction is that you can't make money off it. Which doesn't seem against the spirit of open source. Nothing in open source requires that you give your code to corporations for free.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

Please look up the (A)GPL and stop helping Futo with their open washing

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Come on, there's no need to be hostile. Look at my history. I've never heard of them before. Nor am I an expert on the various licenses.

Agpl is stronger about forcing release of forked source code but doesn't say anything about commercial use. What is an existing GPL variant that prevents commercial use?

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hey, sorry for coming off harsh. It's just that I've had enough with people claiming Futo is somehow the good guy here. Preventing commercial use is against everything FLOSS and basically makes forks impossible and any contribution to the project meaningless...

Also "commercial use" is incredibly broad, in Germany e.g. all commercial websites must have an imprint and IIRC some court ruled that even private websites must have one as well, so there is that. Futos' licensing is really a scummy move akin to MongoDBs SSPL.

The idea behind the GPL is that any change you make has to be available as source code to the users in addition to the four essential freedoms. The GPLv3 patched some exploits (LOL) regarding proprietary devices (ab)using free/libre software and the AGPL patches the "providing a service over a website" loophole which is not covered by the vanilla GPL.

This page by Codeberg has a nice decision tree regarding choosing an actually free/libre license and is also a good read in general
https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/licensing/

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Preventing commercial use is against everything FLOSS

I upload 3d models to printables (prusa's online library). The uploads have a license checkbox list: free to download, free to modify, must list original author in remix, and/or no commercial reuse. You check off whatever you want.

Preventing commercial use is not against OpenSource. It's origin was because of commercial abuse. The OpenSource definition https://opensource.org/osd says no discrimination in use by businesses. It does not say you must allow companies to take your work and sell it for profit. Using open source software is not the same as selling it.

Creative commons has a non commercial license.

https://ufal.github.io/public-license-selector/#%3A%7E%3Atext=Creative+Commons+Attribution-NonCommercial+%28CC%2Clicense+that+bans+commercial+use.

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