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[-] RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Wasn't openly allied with the nazis yet, was clearly inclined to due so long before it was official, was clearly still a motive for the soviets, fucking duh

My point is you don't need to assume inclination to allying with the Nazis. I personally believe it too, but the motives for the invasion were ultimately different, as explained by the sources I've given you.

[-] RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

You have no point, you provided no sources, they didn't need to assume anything because they knew it for a fact

I provided three sourced quotes from contemporary western sources corroborating that the given reason for invading Finland was to put extra Soviet-controlled territory between the USSR and Nazi Germany.

Additional source, from Wikipedia's article of the Winter War:

"In April 1938, NKVD agent Boris Yartsev contacted Finnish Foreign Minister Rudolf Holsti and Finnish Prime Minister Aimo Cajander, stating that the Soviets did not trust Germany and that war was considered possible between the two countries. The Red Army would not wait passively behind the border but would rather "advance to meet the enemy". Finnish representatives assured Yartsev that Finland was committed to a policy of neutrality and that the country would resist any armed incursion. Yartsev suggested that Finland cede or lease some islands in the Gulf of Finland along the seaward approaches to Leningrad, but Finland refused"

Your and Soviet gut feelings about Finns collabbing with Nazis, however right they ended up being afterwards, weren't the official reason to invade Finland's south, the reason was simply putting extra land on the way, as explicitly said by Soviet officials during negotiations to try and peacefully get that land, and as proven by the fact that the Soviets stopped the war when they got these territories.

[-] RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Claiming that a person said something is not even close to the same thing as providing a source that proves they said it, and a handful of quotes from leaders of countries that are not the soviet union would prove absolutely nothing about the motives of the leaders of the soviet union even if they weren't entirely unsubstantiated. You're bad at this.

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