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You might’ve noticed Framework, the laptop manufacturer, embroiled in a controversy as of now. The Discord server is on lockdown because the volunteer moderation team has gone on hiatus, and the Framework forum post about the controversy has been gaining unsightly amounts of steam from people disappointed at actions taken by Framework.

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[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 127 points 6 days ago

Fair Warning: Long rant ahead.

Great article, and it gets to the heart of something I've felt is becoming more and more prominent in the Linux and Open Source Community, and really any community. And it's something we simply can't ignore.

That is that you can't separate politics from life. It's everywhere. The author points out that Framework's mission is to encourage right to repair and responsible consumption by discouraging planned obsolescence.

While right to repair might be popular in both left and right wing circles, that is only because both sides want control over their devices and to distance themselves from Big Tech. But their views on regulation with regards to the environment and social equity/inclusion are as far apart as the general right left paradigm is as a whole.

To be blunt, you simply cannot have normal people work under the same tent as crypto fascists, transphobes, and general right wing grifters, no matter how significant their individual contributions might be.

I personally am tired of these sorts of controversies being brushed under the rug by tech influencers like BashBunni and Brodie Robertson who in their coverage of Omarchy did not broach this topic even just to say that there is a controversy at all. It's cowardice at best, and right wing apologism at worst.

Yes, there are particularly brilliant software engineers that are also assholes. And yeah, without those assholes, we wouldn't have the technologies we have today. The mistake is thinking that they are brilliant because they are assholes. Another mistake is thinking that holding onto one productive asshole is better than hanging onto the good will and contributions of many normal people that still provide worthwhile contributions.

To be very frank, fuck that. I refuse to believe in the false dichotomy that in order to create good software we have to put up with bigots. If anything, their attitudes end up holding themselves and their colleagues back. We shouldn't be asking ourselves, "How much less productive would that person have been if they had wasted time/energy on being socially conscious and empathetic." And instead have asked "How much more productive and better off we all would have been had they been a more empathetic and compassionate person." Because we're all worse off when a colleague is being a bigot, and it's in all of our interests to call it out when we see it.

[-] TechnoCat@piefed.social 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't disagree with anything you're saying.

I just want people to ponder this: What happens when we ostracize people with bigoted beliefs from our communities? Does that mean we have given up on the idea that communities can change people? Does that mean our community is not responsible for helping people realize their bigotry?

[-] cityboundforest@beehaw.org 25 points 6 days ago

I want to start this comment out by saying that I do agree that communities can change people, that if one is exposed to differing perspectives and belief systems, that one has the opportunity to change their outlook on the world. It's definitely how I was able to get myself out of some very bad thought processes that were ingrained into me as a child. I would, however, like to grain-of-salt that to say that I was open to hearing about differing perspectives and belief systems.

Respectfully (to you and other leftists at least), as a disabled queer trans person, I am tired of the emotional labor it takes to justify why I should exist to people on the right. I agree it should be done to engage with as many people that are willing to take it in as possible. I have done it enough to know that there are times when you can try as hard as you can, but the person just won't come over to your side of thought. I'm reminded of the saying "I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you."

Again, I don't mean to direct any malice or misgiving towards you or anyone else engaging with this topic in good faith. I'm just tired of doing the work that other non-marginalized people should have been doing for years.

[-] TechnoCat@piefed.social 6 points 6 days ago

Thank you for your response. I hear you loud and clear.

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