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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 117 points 2 months ago

Turns out South Korea was a brutal military dictatorship under the backing of the US way longer than you'd think

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 81 points 2 months ago

USA and brutal dictatorships, name a more iconic duo!

[-] protist@mander.xyz 40 points 2 months ago

Russia and brutal dictatorships? They're both up there

[-] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 10 points 2 months ago

Lets just say “superpowers and brutal dictatorships”.

Whoevers dominating in a period in history generally didn’t get there by advocating for peace and self determination.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

North Korea and brutal dictatorship

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

The Kims never killed 30 thousand people in a few days

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

The Kims did starve to death a magnitude more over a handful of years.

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

People always say this to but I don't think it's even true, or misrepresents greatly the situation.

  1. North Korea was the better place to live until the collapse of the USSR and mid-90s famine. That's not up for debate. Their living standard and quality of life were overall much higher than ROK thanks to Russian subsidies.

  2. North Korea has far less farmland than the ROK, which has many more river valleys and warmer latitudes. North Korea also lacks trading partners due to sanctions, while ROK currently imports around 80 percent of its food.

  3. The US and ROK time their military drills specifically to fuck with DPRK's planting and harvesting seasons, forcing them to divert manpower to defense positions when they need able-bodied men to be on farms.

Given these three points, I think North Korean hunger is almost entirely due to the US and its policies. But nobody likes to hear that the Kims might not be horrible monsters

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

imagine simping for NK like this lol.

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Why don't you directly address my points instead?

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago
[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

OK so you will just rely on thought-terminating cliché to go through life. Nice

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[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago

How many regimes did NK install themselves?

[-] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Democracy has been a relatively recent form of government in the grand scheme of things.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

The way the US has been acting, they never seemed to think that democracy is a good form of government, either.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

The Ancient Greeks would like several words.

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