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i hadn't heard about this before. what a bunch of maroons. i can't believe they thought this was going to fly.
Their enclosures are dogshit too. You can roll your own for like half the price if you have spare components laying around or a decent local computer thrift store. It'll be like 10x better to because you can put actual real NAS software on there, or just run a virtualization server.
Only benefit for these style appliances is that they usually come with 2.5Gig + network adapters, but a smaller ATX build could just get a PCIE card that does 10 and that benefit is gone.
USB3.0 can do a 2.5g eth card pretty easily.
Always feel dirty using USB for stuff that isn't basic I/O lol. Plus if I'm building my own I'll probably wanna go 10 gig because why not
If I wanted to go about looking into this, where would I start? Hardware and software wise.
For software... TrueNAS is probably worth checking out but may require some tinkering. I've been running it since it was called FreeNAS, about 10 years now actually. It's been rock solid but I decided to splash out on enterprise grade hardware at that time. Like, actually tracked down and bought the exact RAM modules from the mobo QVL type shit. I guess it was worth, bc I have had almost 0 issues with it once I got it set up the way I liked. I scarcely even log into the admin console anymore, it can be very hands off, set-and-forget, or what have you. I'm only asking it to be a NAS though. I used to fuck with the jail feature so I could have it also run services (bittorrent client, DVR, Plex, etc) but that was a huge pain in the ass for me so I ditched that idea and run services on a different machine now which I very much prefer. The newer TrueNAS versions may make this easier, I dunno.
If I were starting from scratch today, I'd do it on surplus enterprise hardware (from ebay or a local computer thrift shop) and see if I could make copyparty work for me. Looks like a real nice app that could maybe do everything I need out of a fileserver, but I have no time to fuck with it and my needs are already met.
This sounds incredibly complicated. Basically I just want to setup a storage setup with redundancy and a silent machine. I've got a Synology already but with the hard drives in it its way too annoying to keep in the same room so i hardly use it.
I don't own one, but look into n100/n150 machines. I had been looking at These but decided to upgrade an old pc instead. But the cpu is only a few watts so should be nice and quiet. Forget which exact reviews I've seen of it
I came across this brand in my research and apparently they have truly abysmal quality control and customer service.
It's more complex than building a desktop or gaming PC but the principles are the same... most of the concern is geared toward providing space and SATA hookups for your spinning disks... still if what I described turned you off, I get it... can you replace the fans in your Synology with quieter ones? And/or run a network cable so it can be in another room, or get it on wifi?
I was thinking about it but its a DS920+ and already many years old even though I've never actually used it. The hard drives are out of warranty as well, so my new thought is to sell the whole kit and kaboodle and then start over with a new UGreen model. I really hate how much noise the hard drives make inside the Synology and apparently this model is still very popular because it has the Intel chip for Plex.
Right on, if you can unload it for an upgrade then by all means... just to play devil's advocate though, if you can get it on your network and stash it where you won't hear it, maybe that's a less expensive solution, unless you think you can break even on it. If you've scarcely used it, the drives may not have the wear and tear of their actual age, and you could potentially get years more service out of it before you're forced to upgrade. Just a thought!
Where do you sell computer stuff like this nowadays? I haven't sold anything on the internet in a long long time, certainly not as specialized as a Synology server with hard drives.
I dunno besides ebay, craigslist, or hardware sales subs
, seems like there would have to be other niche trading forums out there... dealing in person is always better, maybe put up a poster at a local coffee shop or library or places where geeks hang out?
Copyparty is cool, but it's still a very green app. If you want to use that, I'd run it as a container within your TrueNAS/FreeNAS install. That way you get the foundation of the tested software with a fun UI added on top.
Also having read some of the copy party source, it was written by a madman
Yeah for sure if I get time to tinker I'll just run copyparty separately, and that's probably good advice for everyone, thanks. Wdym a madman? Did they leave a manifesto in the comments?
There's goofy design patterns and fun comments all over lol, the whole project is super cool, but absolutely someone's passion project.
I say this as someone who deeply respects what they have been able to accomplish. Namely making a Python application that can run on most versions of Python 2.7+ and Python 3.x.
If you look at a lot of the backend stuff, they use a huge number of single and double character variables that live for the duration of an object and primarily use classes as namespaces. I'm just more used to seeing Python code that builds out clear abstractions and interfaces with the existing data model or implements interaction with that data model so you can use each component separately. Here's an example of an __init__ for one of their monolithic classes (it's ~5k lines in total)
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Eh, part of the product is being able to predict drive failure and show users information.
There are plenty of drives on the secondhand market now that have had their information partially or fully wiped or otherwise modified so in order to preserve that ability to show synology users something approaching a decent prediction they said you can only use approved devices.
This isn’t the first time a company has done this exact thing. It used to be really common with the big name infrastructure providers. You couldn’t use an ibm/dell/hp/whoever storage doohicky without using their (re)branded drives.
It used to get lambasted as a cheap attempt to get more cash by upcharging a captive customer, but nowadays I tend to attribute it to unique market conditions around manufacturing, availability and cost versus cost per unit storage.
The first time i have seen it happen was back when everyone realized that aside from physical mechanical failure where the no no parts get touched, age wasn’t nothing but a number to these drives. Suddenly you’d get people reflashing chips that had reached eol just so their 80 megabyte drive could keep on truckin. Obviously it was fine, but that meant there would be reduced demand for the next generation and overall negative revenue growth so everyone started cracking down on unsupported disks. That’s not the whole story, because the 90s and early 0s are the time when fast hard drives allowed programmers to take advantage of swap space like never before to make up for a lack of memory in the face of ballooning datasets, but it’s a real thing that happened alongside big time storage availability becoming everyday.
There was another time back during the switch to sata and again as the 6gbps sata standard was allegedly sunset.