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Thank you, I have it downloaded, but maybe I'll just delete it instead of wasting those two hours. I'm not a fan of Marvel to begin with, and the best thing that's been even close was Toxic Avenger. Also not great, but better than any of the Marvel movies I've seen in the last fifteen years.
There's two somewhat good character moments (Johnny and Sue) but I wouldn't say that it's worth it just for those. I honestly wished I'd watched something else. For those 'must see moments' I just watch a clip on youtube. That's what I did for the Illuminati scene in Dr. Strange, and even that wasn't that great, and probably will do te same for Avengers Doomsday (especially after this). The last battle is a spectacle but it's not super thrilling imho. I really just wanted to see Galactus (which they did do justice, at least with character and design) but it was ho-hum at best. It's a shame because I did expect more from the most iconic story in FF history.
Edit: Watch Superman if you want a genuinely fun superhero experience with great scenes and character moments.
Depends on if you consider mediocre to slight-above-medicore a waste of 2 hours. It's competent and not exactly bad. And if you actually like the Fantastic Four they're not doing wholesale character assassinations (although I have not read any FF in like... 20 years?) which instantly makes it the best FF film of this century. Also Pedro Pascal is in it, which was 80% of the reason I went to see it.
It's true it's the best they've done with FF and the casting is (pun intended) fantastic, I just felt the script let them down as characters. Yeah, they felt and acted like the FF but the scenes beteween characters were largely uninteresting and uninspired imho. But yes, I think Pedro was the best realized character in the movie next to Johnny followed by Ben, I felt Sue didn't really have as clearly defined as a character. She did have a great moment at the end of the movie though.
I think they were hamstrung by the fact that there were 2 franchises before this one, so they didn't rehash the group's relationship and chemistry with one another as much. Just jumped into the mundane every day life. Having dinners, appearing on TV, completely mid banter, etc.
If it were about a romantic relationship instead of the FF, they fast forwarded through the meet cute, the dating period, the wedding, the honeymoon and skipped straight to the content old couple. Which isn't bad, just less compelling.
Honestly, I was more entertained than bored while watching it, but I don't think I'll think about this film ever again after this year. Pleasantly surprising for current year Marvel Slop.
Watched the Falcon movie at a friend's house a couple months after seeing FF because she actually loves the slop and I thought "hey 4 gin and tonics should get me pliable enough to find at least a couple of the jokes funny" and it turns out it was a """serious""" political thriller and also you need to have watched a Netflix series and also the Eternals to understand. The whole time I was thinking "what the fuck are these characters doing" and "why are they doing this now" and "who the fuck is this character" and so on. Fantastic Four may as well have been Martin Scorsese next to that movie.
Yeah, I think that's what it was for me, the fact that they didn't really show the character's relationships on any meaningful level. There should have at least been some short montage showing Reed/Sue getting married, maybe one of Johnny and Ben's bigger fights (they are friends in the comics but have a rocky relationship at times). They were casted great but we didn't get to see any real character moments from them that showed how they all get along, the closest we got was Reed and Sue arguing because of Reed's impersonal at times, practical parsing of a situation and the facts without thought for emotion, and even that was fairly more tepid than what you'd see in the comics.
For me, the bottom line is, I feel like the Marvel movies have this generic tone that I just can't get past. It's like how Marvel and DC have had "house styles" at times where the comic artists draw the comic in a fairly similar way making the comics feel homogeneous.
Just watch at like 2x speed on a second monitor, and it's better.