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submitted 3 months ago by Curmuffin@fedia.io to c/politics@lemmy.world

Since Trump's election, gun groups catering to progressives and people of color report a surge in interest as they look to defend themselves in a country that, to them, feels increasingly unstable.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Don't be a fool. Everyone in America has guns or access to them. It's trivial to buy one and many on the left own them all the same as anyone else.

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Like 40% of American households own guns. Most gun owners just own multiple. Leftist should either arm themselves in preparation or be prepared to be trampled on.

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Thats a nice lie that left/center leaning people keep telling themselves.

The reality is that republicans by far have a higher percentage of gun owners.

If there were a fight that started today, there would be a sweep.

Then you have to remember that every force of violence in the US, LEOs, all branches of military, all support trump.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Then you have to remember that every force of violence in the US, LEOs, all branches of military, all support trump.

So, what kind of gun can I buy that will let me defend myself from a tyrannical reaper drone?

Or maybe planning to fight your enemy where he is strongest is fucking dumb?

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

A gun does not defend you from a drone. It defends you from other people who are emboldened to commit crimes against you.

The point later in the comment is about what happens if the government fully turns in the citizens. Protecting yourself is midway to that.

You basically can't let it get that far or you're just cooked.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It defends you from other people who are emboldened to commit crimes against you.

No, it doesn't defend you. At best, it will give you a chance to shoot back. Statistically speaking, the person you are most likely to use a gun on is yourself, second most likely victim of your gun is your spouse.

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

That's nice, but those statistics are from a different time with a different threat profile.

We are long done with pretending we're living in a reasonable society.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Actually, about 27,000 people in the US committed suicide by gun last year, compared to 16,000 non-suicide gun deaths, and apparently the gun suicide to gun deaths ratio actually went up from 2023.

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Did you not at all read my comment?

I knew the stats before you mentioned them, I'm pointing out there are clear differences to society right now that make this data far less relevant.

Your actually implies you're arguing against an argument I've made but you aren't at all.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Ah, so you think (without any evidence) that the trend suddenly and drastically reversed itself in the last 10 months and no one bothered to report on it?

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

If the full force of the FBI, military, and local law enforcement turns against the citizenry the citizenry is cooked.

Hopefully our fellow citizens will balk at killing their neighbors, but if they don't, shotguns and handguns are only useful to increase the cost of enforcement on the gestapo.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They didn't balk when their neighbors were being rounded up by the new gestapo and shipped off to extra-national slave prison camps.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Hope springs eternal. Preparations should be made for darker futures.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

No, the difference is, you believe all the bullshit. And I'm wise enough not to.

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm not sure you can even vocalize what you're trying to say here.

The facts are just not in your favour.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/24/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

Key excerpt:

45% of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents say they personally own a gun, compared with 20% of Democrats and Democratic leaners.

You'll find that all available information says similar.

Republicans have a much higher percentage of gun ownership than democrats.

It's not just that they own more guns per individual. They have more individuals with guns.

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