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[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

And Democrats do have problems worth discussing, but the game theory of the Presidential vote is this: any vote against Biden is a vote for Trump.

So voting for Biden is Harm Reduction. His wins can delay fascism from taking over the US in 2025

Gotta say I hate that. I get these shills are playing the long game, but in the end, this is the same bullshit that got us in this predicament in the first place - vote for one because the other is worse!! We will never progress with that hanging over our heads.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I despise the two-party system. Protest voting won't magically give us the democracy we deserve. It has to be done on a small scale, local and state level. It's gotta be organized. Governors are particularly invulnerable to this two-party bullshit, and that is I believe why a few states have Ranked Choice Voting now.

And actually voters aren't to blame. The founding fathers understood what they were doing to our democracy, and them saying a two party system must not be established was probably more of a dogwhistle that it should be done immediately because it will work.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

some of the founders were outspoken in their support of a two-party system. you don't seem to know as much as you pretend.

edit: or you're lying.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I'll stop beating around the bush and say I think George Washington was lying. A few of our founding fathers had principles, but the most powerful of them were actually just reactionary elites using any narrative for power. So when he says don't form a two party system, I think if he had the chance he would have done it himself.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We will never progress with that hanging over our heads.

Which is horrifying recklessness on the part of Democrats. "Be happy with 'not fascist' because that's the best we're willing to do" only has to fail once.

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