What I'm saying is that for example, dreams are not real, and yet they can and often are indistinguishable from reality, many even have dreams where they are aware they are dreaming and can control them the same way we can control what we do while awake.

I think to adopt that argument you have to be operating on some preconceived assumptions.

Dreams are "real", in the sense that they are propagated by measurable physical phenomena. Just because some people can experience an amount of choice in their dreams, does not mean they are interacting with "reality".

This is only possible because we have bodily systems for producing experiences

Again... Experiences needs to be defined. There are a lot of theories about how we engage with the world around us in both a physical and metaphysical way.