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Is China capitalist? Leftists vs Liberal
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Not a great piece of agitprop. This isn't going to convince anyone. It's way too wordy and also gives liberals way too much credit. Liberals who can't read a single page of theory are never going to listen to all of this. They will check out after the first minute. The sentences are way too long and the words far too complex for them.
The communist persona here is actually arguing against an ultra-leftist who already has a basic notion of what socialism should look like and what modern China is like. Liberals just think "China bad dictatorship, authoritarian, repression, no free speech". They don't think China is capitalist (except when they are confronted with its undeniable successes).
And even for an ultra-leftist the arguments made here are too intellectual and theoretical. Ultra-leftists don't oppose China because they came to the conclusion that its model of development doesn't conform to traditional Marxist and Leninist theory, they oppose it for vibes-based reasons, so you need to appeal to them in the same way.
Know your audience. These theoretical arguments work for someone who is already a fairly well read communist. They don't work for liberals (where the main hurdle is not convincing them that China is socialist but that convincing them that socialism is good; you need to start at a way lower level with them) or vibes-based radlibs.