Journiv v0.1.0-beta.8: This Thanksgiving, give your family the gift of memories that last forever (lemmy.ml)

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Hello everyone!

First of all, thanks a lot for the amazing response and interest in Journiv. We have hundreds of stars, thousands of docker pull and many many feature request (and bugs reports) on Github in just two weeks (sleepless two weeks for me :)).

Journiv v0.1.0-beta.8 is out and in it I have added the most requested features.

Highlights:

OIDC support (now pretty stable)
In app one click export-import with history. So you always have your memories safe and backed up even if you don't want to deal with docker backups
Role Based Access Control for user management.
Many quality of life features and bug fixes.
Read the release notes here

Journiv began as a deeply personal project, a way for me to capture memories, reflections, and the stories behind thousands of photos and videos of my fast-growing kids. What started as a tool for my own parenting journey has grown into something that fills a real gap in the self-hosting community.

If you’re curious, you can read the full story behind Journiv here.

I’m grateful that Journiv is now helping others preserve their memories as well.

The Journey Ahead

Journiv is in active development, with a fully functional backend, a web frontend, and mobile apps launching soon. It is self-hosted, and designed to be your companion for decades.

Journiv is being built because our memories deserve to be ours, forever.

So this Thanksgiving, give your family the gift of memories that last forever!

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[-] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So this Thanksgiving, give your family the gift of memories that last forever!

What is this marketing?

I cannot imagine a single person who would want this for Thanksgiving.

Most people under the age of 30 use social media now to "preserve memories".

The people who care about journaling probably have physical paper journals and wouldn't want an app.

And the people who would want an app... would probably already have installed this themselves.

[-] rockstar1215@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

You are reading too much into it... Happy thanksgiving!

[-] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

That's a fair response.

If I had been more careful with my original comment, I would have said

I cannot imagine a single person who would want this (as a gift) for Thanksgiving.

Plenty of people (myself five years ago included) would want to be able to self-host software like this, especially when it looks as good as the competitors it's based on.

[-] amlor@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

These posts just sound too much like corporate marketing bullshit.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 10 points 2 days ago

the literal first link is to a lemmy post full of people listing their usecases.

[-] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The post on... the opensource Lemmy community for self hosters. Is that the one you're talking about.l?

The marketing claims it's "a gift for your family".

Not a single comment in that first link mentions family members using it.

Here are the "use cases" you mentioned :

wow, this looks awesome!
it might be nice to have the a local storage option
I really wish it has a linux native app and an android app, hopefully in f-droid
As the admin of the !journaling@sh.itjust.works community

My issue isn't the app itself or it's users. It's the claim that it's "a gift for your family".

[-] rockstar1215@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am not sure where this thread is going. I don't see it adding any value to the discussion or the project. If you have any specific feedback on how to make the project better. I will love to hear that.

I am also not sure how nitpicking on choice of word is helpful here. People can interpret things differently and above is your interpretation.

To provide context on why the post has that sentence:

The major feature of this release is user management with RBAC.
You might not have a use case where you use software with other family members but many do specifically in self hosted world where they self host for the family. See:
https://github.com/journiv/journiv-app/issues/93
https://github.com/journiv/journiv-app/issues/41
https://github.com/journiv/journiv-app/issues/18
https://github.com/journiv/journiv-app/issues/62 many more ...
Hence that sentence.
Like I said you are reading too much into it. Its like a vegan having a problem with a billboard which says "Delicious meat" just because they don't eat meat.

[-] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

If you have any specific feedback on how to make the project better

Include the context from your comment above in the original post, so that the claim makes sense.

Its like a vegan having a problem with a billboard which says "Delicious meat" just because they don't eat meat.

I would say it's more like a random person seeing a billboard that says "This handbag is great for your garden project" and reacting with "wtf is this marketing?"

Because that's not what handbags are typically for.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 1 day ago

why is that an issue? it's a turn of phrase, isn't it?

[-] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't think they're going out of their way to misrepresent the software.

But if you're excusing it for being a "turn of phrase", then it's a poor choice of turn of phrase.

Both Day One and Apple Journal, which this software is proudly positioned as an alternative to, marketed themselves on "personal" and "private", not "for the family".

Which could make sense, if it was designed around family-oriented features. But it's not.

And it's not like there's a lack of options:

Give yourself an early Christmas present with
Host your own thanksgiving, with
Preserve the moments that matter with
This Thanksgiving, I'm grateful for your support
Host your Thanksgiving memories at home with
Bon Appétit, Journiv is self-hosted for the holidays
This Thanksgiving, own what you write

But "give your family the gift of memories of memories that last forever"?

[-] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 1 day ago

...are you okay?

[-] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm defending the validity of my original comment.

You've gone this deep with me into the comments. How are you?

[-] rockstar1215@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I really can't believe this is going so far for a sentence in the post...

Like I said above that is your interpretation of the sentence. People can have their own. The sentence does not state a fact which is either true or false.

So this Thanksgiving, give your family the gift of memories that last forever!

This is what I was thinking when I wrote that. "give your family the gift of memories that last forever" you don't even have to give them the instance software to use it. You start using it capturing your memories and thoughts where you have full control and ownership on your data which can last with you for decades rather than according to some third party company terms and policies etc.

At somepoint you can "if you want to" give all/some part of it to your kids/family. What is said above is how Journiv started https://journiv.com/blog/the-story-behind-journiv

My kids are growing faster than I can keep up. Every day brings a hundred tiny moments worth remembering: the first clumsy dance, the way they mangle a new word, the small family adventures I wish I could preserve forever. Like many parents, I wanted to capture these moments—not just for today, but so my kids could look back decades from now and see their childhood through my eyes.

Quoted text ^

Both Day One and Apple Journal, which this software is proudly positioned as an alternative to, marketed themselves on “personal” and “private”, not “for the family”.

Yes because even they can just easily give it away in Apple or Google play family sharing they want you to pay the subscription individually :)

And now I am out of this comment thread. I don't think I will have the last word here so I will let you go next :)