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i wrote it in a comment threat on this post. i repost it this way, welp

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[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Doesn't matter how easy it is when step zero is "spend $500+ on a new phone because you're currently using a Samsung or other device with a locked bootloader"

Misleading statement: OnePlus Nord N30 5G (a.k.a. Nord CE 3 Lite 5G) costs 300$ in OnePlus' official store, and supports Lineage. And the price gets lower when buying second-hand phones (e.g. Pixel 6/7 series, Motorolas, Nothing Phone 1, older OnePlus)

Remember, even cheaper phones (that actually work with your carrier) get marked up. Taxes, shipping, accessories like a case. Being able to afford a new device is nice and Lineage/Graphene make a good case for which new device you should buy, but someone's five year old phone still works.

  • Having to fiddle with carriers is an US-exclusive problem, so I can't voice an opinion.

  • Someone's five year old phone should work with, maybe not Lineage, but maybe another custom ROM. Most of them are based of Lineage, anyway.

[-] pory@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

$300 plus shipping and taxes. In your region. And a whole lot more than $0, which is the cost of staying on someone's old phone. when someone's buying a new phone already, considering its compatibility with Lineage or Graphene is something that should be on more people's radar, I agree. But switching from googled vendor'd Android to fully open Android isn't a pure skill issue like switching from Chrome to Firefox (/Waterfox/librewolf) or Windows to Linux is. "I'd switch but it's too hard" is a much smaller reason than "I'd switch but it's too expensive" is.

Someone's five year old phone is just as likely to be a five year old Samsung/etc with a locked bootloader.

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I found Samsung's struggled after 1.5 years. I'm 3 years in on Pixel 6a. Less bloat really seems to help.

What phone would you recommend privacy wise?

[-] pory@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

If you're buying a new one, whatever fits your budget and is compatible with Lineage/Graphene.

The only times I've personally been forced off of a Samsung phone (though I've mostly had flagships) wasn't due to any day-to-day degradation in user experience. It was stuff like switching USA carriers or my carrier blacklisting devices with 3g. My current S22 Ultra is three years old, going on four, and aside from needing to use adb and shizuku to have a semblance of control I once had with root there's nothing wrong with it. My previous phone was only replaced because it became incompatible with my ATT phone service in the US. The Note 9, which was four years-ish old when ATT decided 3g+4g wasn't good enough and deactivated any SIM i put in the thing. If not for that arbitrary carrier-made decision, I can't think of many things that 9 couldn't do that the S22U can.

My next phone won't be a purchase I make until I absolutely need to make it, and at that point it'll exclusively be a pick from degooglable unlockable models. I'll probably choose based on hardware like an SD slot, removable battery, and stylus if any of those are available. Or maybe linux phones will be a thing at that point and I'll be looking at those.

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