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[-] Malkhodr@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I feel like I'm going crazy when I comment on those posts trying my best to be open for newbies but harsh enough that my point isn't diluted.

Like the DPRK video got me so close to relapsing on a very bad habit of mine I've curbed in online discussion. Let's just say I got banned on LSC before and unmanned on the condition I didn't tell anyone to "walk into traffic for the benifet of humanity" again.

She literally was just reading the government setup of the DPRK, she barely even commented on it. It was purely to dispell misinformation about Kim Jung Un's role in government. Yet even that level of mild pushback on the narrative surrounding the DPRK causes libs to go rabid. It would be like me crashing out over someone correcting me after I insisted that Pete Hegseth was the leader of the US.

I genuinely think it's because Madeline appears to look like a stereotypical liberal college student (though their like almost twice my age I believe, seriously they've aged gracefully) and pure unfiltered chauvinism against the DPRK. Libs for some reason turn their brains off completely when it comes to that country. I've had more success convincing people about basically every other aspect of socialism but getting them to rethink anything about "North Korea" is a challenge beyond all others. I'm still developing strategies on how to go about it.

[-] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Libs seriously believe people in North Korea are all paid actors/have a gun strapped to their head/believe in UNICORNS. Its just orientialism and 77+ years of dehumanization of korean communists. Like the United States has been the main killer of koreans since 1945, even the nuclear bombings targeted 70k+ korean slave laborers- whose victimhoods are erased to this day.

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 month ago

The DPRK truly is the final frontier of deprogramming libs.

[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Everytime I vow to stay away from online debates, a shitlib or an anarchist shows up with state-approved CIA propaganda.

[-] ProudCascadian@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago

An """"anarchist"""" who probably loves Vaush and thinks all shoplifters should face solitary confinement.

[-] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Personally I've find you have to do this stuff gradually.

If you start off coming to bat for Stalin, the DPRK, etc. they'll just plug their ears so you gotta start small and ease them into it. First by sowing doubt in capitalism/liberalism, then by exposure to socialist theory, then by exposure to how reactionaries control the narrative & debunking their propaganda methods & tactics, and finally my talking about the "controversial" stuff like the Holodomor, the KGB, the Stasi, the Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Square, Hong Kong, and other things libs have kneejerk responses to.

This is basically how I was converted. In less than 3 years I went from hoping Kim Jong-Un was overthrown to hoping I live long enough to see the end of the US occupation of the Korean peninsula.

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