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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The Witch-King can fight a wizard for the same reason elves can fight and kill the greatest dragons and balrogs themselves. Binding creatures of spirit into physical form both weakens them and makes them vulnerable to other creatures built of both natures. If anything, as a wraith, he has an advantage in Tolkien rules.

That the Witch King is the equal of a balrog/Maia is not a stretch... Gandalf bring afraid of him even if he is a threat is the stretch, but I'd also argue that's not being shown in the scene.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 3 points 4 days ago

Dragons weren't spiritual creatures bound into physical form. They were something Morgoth basically selectively bred.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago

Fair enough in the sense that their exact origin isn't stated so I can't point to a passage and call you a damn casual. I will note that breeding them doesn't mean they didn't start as some kind of ainur or whatever.

I'm curious how you think Ancalagon the Black is a pure product of animal husbandry though.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 1 points 4 days ago

It's the same kind of deal as with the orcs. Morgoth couldn't create anything, but he could twist existing creations into exciting new forms.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And he starts with creatures of power... Which in Tolkien are always creatures of spirit, especially in the First Age.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 1 points 3 days ago

Well, no, he created orcs before he did dragons, and there was definitely nothing spiritual about the orcs.

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