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Both sides are the same
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this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2025
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Of course it was, because people resist change. The left has to settle for small wins everyday. You are only arguing with yourself the more you explain your point here.
The "left" wanted very different things in most of these cases. For instance, in post-war Italy, it wanted a revolution and to join the Warsaw pact.
Plz explain to me how the examples I brought up aren't "centrist" examples but examples of left victories.
Centrist wins’ don’t exist. There’s only progress or stagnation—and ‘centrism’ is just conservatism with better PR. The left’s job isn’t to ‘win’ elections—it’s to make sure the baseline keeps moving left, even if it’s inch by inch. In Italy, the PCI didn’t get revolution, but its demands forced the right to adopt welfare, labor rights, and anti-fascism just to stay in power. That’s not centrism. That’s the left setting the terms of the fight.
The right doesn’t ‘win’ by preserving the status quo—they just delay the inevitable. Every policy shift, no matter how small, is a left victory because it proves the goalposts can move. The alternative? Stagnation. And stagnation isn’t a win for anyone—it’s surrender.