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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why am I supposed to see in that the logic of the political project that reformed Puyi

I don't say this usually, but shit really ain't that deep bro, despite the whole amoral species thing, the allegory and subtext about the demons is pretty well intact; German aristocrats doing genocide and colonialism, that's their theme, yeah "it's in their blood", sure call that problematic, big whoop

Come back to me when their presentation is orientalized or is harking to racial caricatures from the west, otherwise your argument is standing on sand

Also there's this, which could have come straight from a white nationalist manifesto.

Aside from the fact the context of the arc blows your accusation out of the water, Frieren isn't berating Macht for having the audacity to desire coexistence, she's pointing out his idea of "coexistence" seems to be nothing more than treating others around him as "playthings" and "curiosities" that are thrown away at the slightest inconvenience

So a creature with the goofiest German name, dressed like a noble from a Czarist court, treating those he deems lesser than himself with a colonial mindset, I wonder what the subtext could possibly be

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

shit really ain't that deep bro

Every element of a fictional work is placed with intent. The baby demon subplot invites one to ask what that intent is, and that question invites a certain answer, as evidenced by the fact that a large number of people from across the political spectrum all independently arrived at that answer.

German aristocrats doing genocide and colonialism, that's their theme

Which gets muddled by the fact that their POV victim is a blonde-haired, blue-eyed woman with a German-sounding name. Who is it that always shouts about such people being victims of genocide by an ontologically evil outside race that superficially appears to share its culture but is only pretending to assimilate so it can destroy them?

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The baby demon subplot invites an examination on the theme of "appreances can be deceiving" of mythologies surrounding creatures like changelings or the nature of cuckoo birds

If there's a real world racial allusion being made in that subplot, then you need to actually demonstrate it, instead of just endlessly implying that it's there

Which gets muddled by the fact that their POV victim is a blonde-haired, blue-eyed woman with a German-sounding name

Except the fact all the characters are a variation of German runs against the grain of your argument, if the on-screen presentation made real world allusions to different ethinc groups, then the class allegory would be buried under the on-screen struggle between fantasy Germans vs fantasy some-other-ethinc group

It's the fact that separation can't be made that has already soured the series for many online chuds, who ironically (considering your argument) identify with the Demons more then they do with the Mrs. Freiren lmao, who according to you is an "Aryan princess"

Then we take into account the fact that memes like the one above are the most common interpretation among normies who seem pretty happy cracking jokes about how the Demons are "white people" or the millions strong Frieren TikToks where the most popular take is that the Demons are an allegory for capitalism

Funny how nobody (including the racists themselves) can't seem to detect this racism that is apparently oozing off the screen

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