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many people still cannot afford it, no matter how your arrange the facts.
Many of the poorer people can't really afford beef regularly, it's more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid.
money isn't the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day.
you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else.
your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives.
where did I say they are more expensive?
there are not billions of vegans.
why?
i know. what's you're point?
talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said.
characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker
i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts.
i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan.
i was talking about time, which anyone would see from the context.
it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan.
it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position.
many people get meat for free or heavily subsidized.