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[-] orioler25@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

This is an ironically anti-intellectual way to engage with it. Magic isnt real, but knowledge on the natural world and medicine has been maintained through cultural practices like "witchcraft" in the past. Even beyond that, there's knowledge gained for young women in a patriarchal society when they develop relationships with other women and identify with a group that is explicitly counter-cultural on the basis of women empowerment.

Knowledge isn't just facts, it's skills and introspection. Belief in something "bullshit" is often necessary to learn something that is not "bullshit." We teach kids scientifically inaccurate information when they are young because they dont have a basis of knowledge that would enable more nuanced and accurate understandings. They "believe" in something like three states of matter and two genders/sexes because we judge that as a necessary belief to foster the skills that will enable them to learn the reality of these things later.

If they gained self - understanding and empowerment through this phase, then it isn't bullshit. You should challenge this doomerism.

[-] halfsalesman@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Belief in something “bullshit” is often necessary to learn something that is not “bullshit.”

I fundamentally disagree.

I actually don't think we should teach bullshit and call it "foundational". I don't think that's helpful at all. If you are teaching kids states of matter, they can count higher than three, and understand that the class wont cover every kind of matter.

If one's "foundational" education ends up directly contradicting advanced education, it ends up being a way to cement simplified and conservative views of the world. A la "there are two genders" shit that you mention from conservatives and TERFs. If your education system is fostering that kind of mentality its a reflection of that education system's failure.

Even beyond that, there’s knowledge gained for young women in a patriarchal society when they develop relationships with other women and identify with a group that is explicitly counter-cultural on the basis of women empowerment.

I'd rather women get together based on a shared love of science and engineering.

If they'd rather dress up and act as witches they should get into theater or become goths. Or just celebrate Halloween year round.

If they gained self - understanding and empowerment through this phase, then it isn’t bullshit.

But they didn't. They obtained a new form of constructed collective delusion & superstition. They're forming just another arbitrary aesthetics-based in-group to sneer at out-groups from.

You should challenge this doomerism.

Did you read my profile or something?

[-] MarieMarion@literature.cafe -2 points 1 month ago
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