Why ActivityPub over Nostr? - function only (feddit.online)

submitted 1 month ago by Cooper8@feddit.online to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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I have seen some critical views on Nostr as a part of decentralized network discussions, but most seem to be focused on culture not function.

What are the functional / protocol differences that make you prefer ActivityPub over Nostr?

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[-] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

It's not about that even if you reduce it to purely that. Without moderation every platform becomes infested by spammers, trolls, astroturfers. Topical communities lose focus and communities become little more than hashtags.

[-] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 month ago

Yup, better. Moderation should be opt-in & is better handled at the client: the user could opt-in to a "moderation community" that publishes tags their client would follow. Such curation for anyone who wants that is a better idea. Far better than moderators we don't get to choose.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yup, better.

Why is that better?

Moderation should be opt-in & is better handled at the client: the user could opt-in to a “moderation community” that publishes tags their client would follow.

Debateable given that any community anywhere online still needs to remove CSAM and gore and other things.

And what do you mean by "tags" here? Just hashtags or something else? Because a hashtag under a no-moderation concept could still be hijacked.

Far better than moderators we don’t get to choose.

Well I suggest you go there then, because the fediverse will never be what you want it to be.

[-] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

any community anywhere online still needs to remove CSAM and gore and other things.

Legal compliance is different from legally unnecessary moderation.

Because a hashtag under a no-moderation concept could still be hijacked.

Not really: Nostr content is cryptographically signed. User's client subscribes to some content curators who post as signed events their tags for other events. The client processes these tagging events to filter according to the user's preferences.

Some proposals already exist:

the fediverse will never be what you want it to be

Not the topic of discussion, which is function & protocol.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Legal compliance is different from legally unnecessary moderation.

Right, so there would still need to be moderators. And if they can remove that, they can remove anything.

Not the topic of discussion, which is function & protocol.

Right, but you're just gunna have an unpleasant time here if you loath all moderation. It's that simple.

[-] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And if they can remove that, they can remove anything.

That's why there's no limit on the number of relays (events usually publish to multiple) or subscriptions to them (clients usually subscribe to multiple).