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I asked this to an AI, and it didn't say anything intelligible, maybe I'm just not smart enough to understand AI.

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[-] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

It runs on generic hardware so you don't have to pay the Apple tax.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Fair point, but also, the M4 Mac mini is $500 for a pretty competitive chip, 16GB RAM, and 256GB on-chip SSD. You can beat that with a PC (and probably get a bit bigger drive, like 500GB, and you'd be able to upgrade), but you wouldn't save that much money. The Windows license puts it over; of course, the idea is you get someone to sell you one without a Windows license and install Linux. But if they aren't including Windows, they aren't selling in enough bulk to get the price down. There are a bunch of little computers from China that are competitive, but do you trust them? Up to you, I guess.

The other option, I went over in my top-level comment, is to find a gently used office PC that can't be upgraded to Windows 11, like a 7th gen i5. It's not gonna be competitive, performance wise, against that M4 Mac mini, though, but you might get it for like $100 from eBay or something, so maybe it's fine.

To add to your point, not only does it run on "generic" hardware, it runs on "whatever" hardware.

[-] umbrellacloud@leminal.space -1 points 23 hours ago

The mac mini and mac studio give the user a lot of bang for their buck. Those who say "Apple tax," I'm convinced, haven't looked into the Apple settings or used the ecosystem for what it's typically used for... I actually think Apple is worth the money for a lot of people, it just depends on how you typically use the computer and what you need from it

I'm more asking about why a typical Mac user would switch to Linux mint, wondering this in response to something I heard someone say to me. I think maybe, that person just really likes Linux Mint, and wants everybody to use it.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

Well, if you have an old Mac (like Intel era), I think Linux would be a good target if your Mac isn't supported anymore. I'm not sure what Linux distros run on Apple Silicon. Linux being a bit lighter weight would mitigate some of the issues Mac guys have with certain Intel Macs (overheating). And certainly breathe new life into the machine.

I'm not quite sold on Mac Studio. For high end, I don't want something that's all on one chip and can't be upgraded. But that's what Apple Silicon is all about. Just seems like someone who needs that much computer would be better served by a different kind of machine. For cheap consumer grade computers, Macs are kinda hard to beat, but at every price point, there are other options. Hard to say what the best is. It would depend on the user.

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