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LG Update Installs Unremovable Microsoft Copilot on Smart TVs, Ignites Backlash
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Who’s going to step up and start creating a “dumb” version of absolutely everything? One brand dedicated to just making the thing do the thing it absolutely must do and nothing else.
Would be great but the manufacturer would be at a disadvantage because that bundled bullshit effectively subsidizes the device. So you'd have to either raise prices or accept a lower profit margin.
Due to the high barrier of entry (e.g. because of patents) it's unlikely that a privately owned company can make a big market entry, especially across countries. And a public company will be forced by the shareholders to maximize profit so either you bundle crapware or they fire you as CEO.
Of course if you look outside the TV market such devices already exist. High-quality digital signage devices can easily be had – for about three times the price of an equivalently-sized TV.
Isn't that the point and the main benefit of competitive markets?
Agreed, regarding barriers to entry though. They need to be addressed.
Wonder if avoiding the HDMI forum and only having open source ports like DP would reduce cost.
Some premium brands like Bang & Olufsen sell TVs without adware, I think Panasonic TVs are mostly ad-free for now. Outside of that, most big brands will have "professional" or "commercial" product lines that also don't have ads. But in all cases you'll have to pay extra over the TVs subsidized by ads.
YET!
What we need to be pushing is someone like Framework to build fixable TV’s. Plenty of companies now make PI compute style boards so give me a screen I can put my own PI compute style board in and flash my own software.
Then if JelllyFin added in the tuner side, considering it already has the basics, you’d likely get a ton of business selling custom TV’s that are more useable then the crap we have now. Look how popular the fire sticks got!
Makes me wish I had a few million to get a TV designed, make a batch but I think demand would be an issue… which begs the question, how is no-one doing it yet? 🤦♂️🙄
When KDE Plasma Bigscreen becomes bigger and usable, then you can plug any Linux device into it (or even get one of those 100€ NUCs) and have a privacy - friendly smart TV.
Well, their TVs start around $9k and get up to about $30k. That'd be kinda crazy if they play ads like other brands do.
Let's be very clear, they are not and never were "subsidised by ads". Ads just became a new way to extract more money from customers.
Alternatively... just get a CRT. Or hell, even an old plasma screen lol
You can often buy the "digital signage" of TVs. Same pannel, but it's just a screen. I think it's targetting businesses but you can buy them too!