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Obama let every issue plaguing the country fester further with just some Band-Aids to kick the can down the road for some other poor sap to deal with.
Which is to say if he had done what he was elected to do (remember that Hope and Change platform?) and made modest economic reforms that are still desperately needed today, he could have single handledly pushed us in a direction that might have afforded us more opportunities for a fascism off ramp to happen.
Is it Obama's fault that Trump is a fascist? No. But is it his fault that imperial action remains a central part of our foreign policy? Yeah partially. Is it his fault that the necessary measures to uplift those left behind by society were turned into half measure stop gaps to prevent cedeing power from capital owners? Yeah partially.
Remember Obama had a trifecta for the first half of his first term. The only reason he didnt do what he said he would was lack of want and political will. He's an evil piece of shit.
Those are normal, nuanced issues to have with a leader. I agree with most of what you've said. "They didn't do enough to make things better," is a valid position that does not equate to "evil piece of shit." Trump, on the other hand... America knew what Trump was (insert appropriate Biff Tannen still) when they elected him. That's pathological.
The point is not that these are nuanced issues to have against a leader its that Obama campaigned on NOT being this guy, won, and then went back on everything he did paving the way for Trump by doing nothing to help divert us from the economic turmoil we are seeing today.
The comment I replied to was not about knowing who the person was before electing them it was about Obama's culpability in the political climate that birthed both Trump presidencies. And if it wasn't Trump there would have just been someone else. He is not an aberration to our system he is a product of it.