I don’t see the point of romanticizing the scene as preserving some “pure” hacker ethos and conflating it with FOSS.

No, but a bit more culturally mature in the sense of diversity of philosophy.

FOSS creates sustainable value. Companies can build businesses around FOSS through services, support, hosting, and custom development. The scene creates nothing, they don’t promote standards, don’t think of interoperability and so on.

So, if you just change the mood in these few sentences, you'll get what I'm trying to say.

The internet and the very service you’re using run on open source software. The people that build them have values and I don’t think at any point they thought of creating something for LLMs to train on - that’s like the dumbest conspiracy theory I’ve read since a long time and it doesn’t even make sense timeline-wise.

You don't think? I might have encountered some people you'd expect to be good. They are really not that. Let's not conflate having values with having made contributions.

The original FOSS licenses were designed to restrict corporate exploitation, not enable it (even if you have some more permissive licenses that make more sense to be used in a enterprise context), but it was promoted because it worked better and created value.

Designed to do that at the expense of being constrained by law and public morality.

Would you say the same thing to an artist that freely shared his art and see his work copied in the output of some generative ai tool? That would be victim-blaming

Life is complex.