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The American mind cannot comprehend this
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What's funny is in my experience in the USA it's not that there are not busses but they take SOO much longer. I had a job that was 2.8 miles away. It took 7 or 8 minutes to drive there(depending on if you hit the one traffic light on red). Theres a bus stop outside the company. There's a bus stop on the corner of my complex. I looked up on the bus provider website how long it would take...9 hours each way.
Years ago I was living in a different state, a friend was throwing a new years party in his college house and invited me. His college was 3 hours away. I thought about just taking a bus since obviously we would be drinking. I checked the bus schedule... It would take 2.5 days with 4 change overs each way.
I ended up just crashing on his couch and drove home after I recovered from the hang over.
Its just not feasible to take buses here due to how long they take.
That sounds like bus routes are either very meandery or they aren't frequent.
Yeah I think it's politics... "look we have busses and no one uses them we are just wasting money on them".
There's a bus stop just a few blocks from my house, but the bus only comes by once every two hours between 9am-5pm. There's also a very stupid hub design to the routes, so if you live in City B, you need to take a bus 15 miles to the hub in City A, so you can transfer to the bus for City C, even though B and C are less than 5 miles apart.
In truth it's probably a bit of both, there likely aren't enough buses/routes and there are not enough buses on each route. Typically in most US cities, even State capitals, buses just don't have enough usage to justify doubling or tripling them to either create more routes or reduce frequency. In some cities they do have super limited routes that may be meandering, but have less stops, or are short in length to maximize frequency, but generally this is for a very specific route.
I used to live in a large US city in the south east that had a bus route that ran from a designated parking lot to a major industrial area. A one way trip for the bus was around 40 minutes (they had isolated bus only lanes with enforcement) and if you were to drive in traffic it would take 35 min to an hour. On the other hand my bus commute in that city would have been at least 2 hours to and from my workplace because it wasn't that specific route.
Similar situation when I was in college, the main campus was only like 2 miles long. My furthest class was about a mile away, but between waiting for the bus to arrive and then also waiting for it to drive across campus it was generally faster to just walk. After maybe the first week I never rode the bus again.
Smaller buses. Some cities just use vans for smaller routes.
Sure, I've seen that, so you got me thinking on it. The largest city near me has 1 way adult bus fare at $2.20 one way and express bus fare at $3.00. The city's internal minimum wage is $25/hour. To add an extra vehicle you would need a minimum of 8.3 passengers per hour of service to recoup costs of just the driver's wages. This doesn't include vehicle maintenance or all the other costs of employment (contributions to his 401k, contributions to the pension fund, the employer match for personal insurance, workplace insurance, etc).
Realistically you probably need greater than 12 passengers per hour per extra vehicle you add and that's on speculative hope that if you reach a certain coverage threshold people will use it rather than drive their own car. It explains itself why it's a hard sell to politicians.
Your public transit has to pay for itself? Are your roads and sidewalks self-funding too?