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I still don't understand what business the government has defining sex. How is that in any way the government's job?? If anything, it could be up to medical organizations, such as the AMA, if they had sound arguments. But, the government? I really try to at least understand everyone's logic even if I don't agree with them, but this is just so insane. I don't get it.
That’s because there is no logic, the people that want the government to define sex have a purely emotional reaction to the very existence of trans people… and most things that don’t align with their narrow life experience and worldview
There's no logic?
Just because you're ignorant of the difference between sex and gender are doesn't mean there isn't logic...
Sex is very important for the single biggest thing that affects all of our lives, healthcare. Standardizing it literally saves lives.
Except the healthcare needs of trans gender people who have medically transitioned to any degree are often closer to their gender than their sex assigned at birth. The body chemistry differences between men and women are primarily affected by hormones. Unless you're specifically looking at the organs that are different, you probably need to go by gender.
Again, why is the government involved instead of a letting a leading medical body. Did physicians have a large protest over the lack of a legal definition that is forced outside of medical settings, and the government heard their concerns based on rational logic and ethical medical standards? Does the government define eye color, cancer, gingivitis, premature birth, high IQ, major depressive disorder, and how organizations outside of the medical system can use those terms?
It's because they want to incentivize long-term, stable relationships and households because doing so statistically leads to better outcomes for society. The barrier to entry for getting divorced is quite high, so in general people tend to stay together more often if they are married than if they are not.
That all being said, the system is far from perfect for sure. Incentivizing marriages also incentivizes people to stay in bad marriages, among other issues
Not that I agree with what is happening but they are defining it in legal terms, which is absolutely their job. A simple example might be killing someone is just killing someone, and the government defines what is murder and what is manslaughter.
I understand the point of defining a criminal act, but being a sex isn't criminal. It's being a human.
Maybe that was a bad example to use, that is my bad. It was just the first thing I thought of. The government needs to define all sorts of things, not just criminal acts. You say it's being human. They even define what a human is.. Laws have to be written in such a way as to include explicit definitons so they can be enforced without loopholes. (Or in some cases create loopholes like with the rich and taxes)
Where you get your law degree?
Are you implying it requires a law degree to understand that the government defines what terms mean for legal purposes? If you don't understand that you have a lot more to worry about than my certifications.
It's sarcasm. Obviously you didn't study law.
The fact that laws often define terms does not justify a law defining sex or gender. There's nothing implicit to concepts of positive law or legislative authority that require legal definitions of gender.
There are so few occasions in law where it's not a violation of equal protection to discriminate on the basis of gender that there really is almost zero need for law to define it.
Most of those rare occasions are related to reproduction, and even then there's no inherent reason to define genders, the law could just refer to pregnancy or pregnant persons.
You would have learned all about this if you had studied law. I'm sure they must have these concepts where you're from.
https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment14/annotation06.html
ITT: Everyone conflating sex for gender...
It's actually quite important. Your sex are what your chromosomes are, your gender is what you identify as.
Your sex doesn't change, your gender does.
That's literally the definition of it.
This is important especially for medical purposes, medication, surgery, emergency care...etc all has variations based on your sex, because different sexes are predisposed to different classes of problems and interactions. This also applies to REPORTING, reporting that a medication affects someone born female different than someone born male is an extremely important distinction.
Incorrect reporting literally costs lives.
It should to be standardized, just like everything else that has significant consequences on well being.
Politics are ruining what should be completed apolitical.
There's like 8 comments in this topic my straw-chewing friend. You don't need to copy and paste yours again as if trying to get every iota of value out of typing so much pointless tired Facebook wrap-around sunglasses rhetoric.
Omg, I love you.