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Banned from leftymemes for "Tankie shite"
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this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2026
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Your comm is starting to attract too many red fash who take it as a useful propaganda platform.
First of all, I would firmly disagree with calling genuine ML(M)s "red fascists", which is historically disingenuous and, in the present, dangerously inaccurate, especially regarding today's global political climate.
I believe the rules of c/leftymemes are already expansive to prevent irrational idolization/glorification (i.e. exaggerating positive aspects or denying mistakes to the point of lying). However, stating historical fact, or using historical figures to subvert expectations, does not violate that.
Genuinely socialist memes of all stripes (!) have a place there as long as they adhere to the rules, which most do IMO. I admit that moderation could be more proactive and rules better enforced, but we don't get don't get a lot of reports either and currently the largest problem IMHO is the lib infestation in the comments...
When the proposed "solution" of the ML(M) would be to place me in a fascist regime with a red coat of paint and oppress me (if not outright murder me in the name of the revolution), I will fucking call them red fash.
There's a fine line between subverting expectations and glorifying authoritarian leaders, and the new crop of posts are hell bent on crossing over it just enough to not get caught.
Just an FYI that this is a massive "[citation needed]" moment, literally no-one advocates for anything like that or even just reimplementing past socialist experiments (which happened under wildly different material conditions), 1:1 today. I believe you are building strawmen...
Just showing them as characters in a meme != glorification IMHO (which is what has been happening in the posts that are still up, as far as I can tell).
How can you say that with a straight face, when there's a whole-ass instance glorifying North Korea?
Not to mention that nobody outright says that they're going to be oppressive. Lenin sounded great in ~~2017~~ 1917 when he was writing effectively anarchist praxis. We just know that the creation of a new state is going to inevitably end up oppressing and killing those who oppose creating a state.
Apologies for the wording, I meant that in the "genuine ML(M)" context
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Also I don't believe that to be unnuanced uncritical support that wants to blindly copy everything about it either, but largely geopolitical and critical support
Isn't that a No True Scotsman?
No? I'm writing from an anti-revisionist, revolutionary Marxist position.
Please also take this into account:
Cowbee is out there saying that China is their ideal model of communism, so I'm not going to be surprised if there's MLs who fucking love NK as it is right now. But I'm not going to delve into Lemmygrad to prove a point.
Unfortunately every Marxist position thinks they're the one true "anti-revisionist, revolutionary"
I tend to disagree with some of his takes, but in this instance you are being disingenuous. He does advocate for it, but not blindly and not uncritically, and mostly to highlight it's advantages over western models as support for a form "actually existing socialism" (which I disagree with). This for is not "their ideal model of communism", far from it actually, they are just trying to be pragmatic about it as a form of "temporary retreat".
Yeah... I'm not gonna respond to that, trying to keep a good faith convo... But you seem to be more interested in slander...
Thank you. I know we disagree on some things, but this is a far more accurate reading of my position.
It still lacks nuance, being a kinda rushed summary from memory ^^'
That's fine, I understand! It's close enough to accurately counter what db0 claimed, which was outright false.
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I am not being disingenuous! Cowbee has argued multiple times that China is in fact communism.
I am not trying to slander, wtf? You're seriously telling me that other MLs don't consider themselves anti-revisionist and revolutionary?
Sorry, imma need to disengage on this one (am mentally exhausted)
It's cool, for the record, I was legit not trying to slander you.
This was a good thread to follow. Genuinely enjoyed the debate.
For what it's worth, db0 misrepresented my claims, so it's worth going through again to see my clarifications, just to add evidence to back up alsaaas' claims.
I've read your stance on China before, so I know it's more nuanced than that. One of the few comments I didn't upvote.
I just like to encourage good (if not perfect) debate.
Fair enough!
I'd like a quote. I have consistently maintained the following:
The PRC is socialist, as the large firms and key industries, the commanding heights of the economy, finance sector, etc. are overwhelmingly publicly owned. The private sector is about half sole proprietorships that don't make sense to socialize immediately anyways, and the working classes are in charge of the state.
The model of socialism in the PRC is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.
The socialist market economy of the PRC is early-mid stage socialism, not a stateless, classless, moneyless society. Communism is a post-socialist stateless, classless, moneyless society where production and distribution have been fully collectivized globally.
The CPC is ideologically communist, ie Marxist-Leninist (specifically ML-XJT), and is dedicated to achieving communism.
China isn't an "ideal," it's a system that works for them. I support other socialist states as well. I've said that they are the most developed and advanced socialist state, but not that they are my "ideal" nor that they have somehow achieved communism despite having class, a state, and money.
If you're going to use me as an example, please don't misrepresent my positions.
I haven't said the PRC is "my ideal." I don't think it's my place to discuss whether or not x or y socialist project is "ideal," especially when all of them have flaws. What I defend is the socialist project itself, and recognize its capacity to continue improving and providing for the working classes.
If you're going to use me as an example, please don't misrepresent my positions.
Wrong timeline champ. He's still dead in this one 😜
That's what they want you to think!
Dogbert. Your most active user who got instance banned. They do that all the time and you gas them up.
Just feel that this needs addressing:
Socialism and communism aren't fascism. Fascism is inherently a violent protection of the bourgeoisie, not a collectivized system of production and distribution.
There are no real examples of communists issuing blanket "kill all the anarchists for thought crimes!" orders. Fighting has existed, sure, but never a one-sided affair.
No, the "evil commies" don't want to oppress you. We disagree on how society should be organized, but that doesn't make communists anywhere close to fascists. Where anarchists seek communalized and decentralized production and distribution, communists seek collectivized production and distribution, and both of these are entirely different from fascism and the system of private ownership that oppresses us today.
I dunno db0, publicly calling out at Alsaas like this when she had nothing to do with it is out of line imo. It would have been removed by one of the lefty meme mods before long anyway. I see you kind of apologized to her but honestly I'm a bit annoyed on her behalf.
And as Alsaas said, currently the biggest moderation problem is not MLs, who are usually well informed at least, but the brain-dead "reds-under-the-bed" turbolibs in the comments, who've never even heard of Joe McCarthy.
I agree with Alsaas that content removal would have sufficed, so PTB in this case. And no hard feelings I hope.
Two things can be a problem at once. These double standards we have recently where we keep tolerating ml rhetoric in our comms is why hardcore tankies like this person and dogbert and others are emboldened to outright propagandize in our comms. It's why we keep seeing actual anarchists refusing to associate with us out of disgust with how many tankies are here. And when we get straight up propaganda like this from people with a clear anarchist-hating history, we give a slap on the wrist. Enabling further propaganda.
No lib gets anywhere that amount of leeway in here.
Don't forget lefty memes is for "actual" leftists, not for libs.
We usually start with post removal and then move on to a community ban if the user continues breaking the community rules. That's standard practice no?
Wut? Not all "actual" anarchists are rabidly anti ml ya know. The most pressing concern for me is fighting against rising fascism. If some mls want to post non-authoritarian lefty memes here that fit the instance rules, then what exactly is the problem?
And in regards to OP, yes I agree those particular memes were not appropriate for the community and should and would have been removed as a matter of course.
To put it in perspective, lefty memes is our top community and alsaas is a very sincere and thoughtful moderator who has been a big part of that success. I just don't think it's cool to get into pointless dramas with our own (good) mods just to justify your own mod actions in this post. People have feelings ya know.
The problem is exactly because an authoritarian ML posted a meme that doesn't fit the instance rules. And now that they got off with a slap on the wrist, they continued to post similar shite. And that emboldens the rest like them.
I don't think it's pointless. I see a troubling trend and I raised it at a relative moment. What would be a good point to raise this point? Randomly?
Sometimes I think y'all forget that the same applies to me, and I'm the one routinely dogpiled by libs and tankies. One going on right this moment about this post in fact.
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I also think you took my statement the wrong way. It wasn't meant to call the rest "fake", but pointing out that platforming/facilitating authcom rhetoric, is driving away anarchists who see things different than you do.
Maybe when you aren't on a hot streak of getting in internet fights with friends and foes alike? And ideally in a way that doesn't make it look like you are throwing your own mods under the bus just to prove a point. Anyway I'm not gonna continue this here. If you actually want to have a proper conversation instead of public grandstanding then we can continue in matrix. I'm done with this here.