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I'm an American and believe the nations of the world should sanction us into economic ruin over this (and everything else from the last year).
Dictators around the world are getting too comfortable. They're seeing too many examples of other dictators getting away with war crimes, illegal invasions, and other atrocities.
Putin emboldened Netanyahu, Netanyahu emboldened trump, and I don't even want to think about who's going to feel emboldened by trump.
Rules based order, multilateralism, and international law seem to be crumbling with no enforcement. Arguably the greatest achievements of the twentieth century, disappearing like vapor...
Xi Jinping. Taiwan is next, especially if this goes south and fixes the US naval assets in place for a prolonged period.
There is only one China. How can China invade itself lmao
Like Tiananmen Square? 天安门广场 1989
Nah. Just a targeted police action to arrest the rogue elements who purport to be the lawfully elected government.
They'd be justified in sanctions, but I don't think that it would actually accomplish anything. The people doing this shit don't give a flying fuck about them because it would hurt you and me, not them.
I support bombing both DC and Mar a Lago. Or, just bomb one of the golf courses he's at. He's such an easy target for anyone that wants to kill him.
If only he took less stimulants so that he stood still enough for that nice young man from Pennsylvania
Such a nice young man. A little more training was all he needed.
That's 50% of the electorate.
Not really, although they want you to believe that. In reality, over a third of registered voters abstained from voting in 2024.
More people didn't vote than voted for either candidate.
That was a vote for Trump.
I got bad news for you about that dumb ass third that wouldn’t turn out for democrats anymore than republicans. You’d likely get the same numbers. They didn’t vote for a reason. They either didn’t like either that much or they ate dumb as shit on a brick. The former may vote dem slightly more but the latter would be influenced in the election line by the dumb shits passing out flyers, and they are more often republicans from what I’ve seen.
People that checked out will not vote the way you fucking think.
The only way to get to them is to make them fucking uncomfortable. That’s it.
They voted for "whoever the other guys want."
50% of the electorate wouldn't be hurt by sanctions, or 50% of the electorate would be arrested?
In either case, I'm referring to the president, his staff and cabinet. People actually directly making decisions who won't see any consequences from sanctions.
It’s impossible for any western country to sanction the US, we are 100% dependent on US payment processing, trade in USD and US security guarantees (which even if questionable are better than nothing).
It is possible for China to start selling US government bonds, essentially refusing to lend the US money and hold its debt. But I don't think they'll do it as a sanction for this event. They'll do it when they think it's optimal for their own plans. When a US president needs punishment from their perspective. The current president, from their perspective, doesn't need punishment because he's making enemies all over South America and shouldn't be disturbed while doing that.
As for European countries, I am fairly confident that US defense industry is already frustrated by inability to sell long-term projects. Ukraine will buy what it can right away, but others will think twice. By the way, I've got an F-35 to sell you... but you're only allowed to use it for US-approved conflicts. ;)
Having access to an additional 20% of global oil reserves will likely increase demand for US debt.
Not for very much longer.
Use China's CIPS system for payment processing, trade in Euro or Yuan, buy gold instead of US treasuries.
As an American, I believe that we need to come together ASAP and form a police task force to remove the regime by legitimate, democratic means. It's called its shots: The regime has said that it intends to eliminate 100 million Americans.
By deportation for now. Let's not wait for its final solution.
Afraid we're too far gone, Biden blew our last chance at holding these people accountable. At this point it's going to take internal economic collapse and likely external war to end this.
Not being cynical! But that's my take from modern history.
If they don't, Greenland will be next.
This is starting to smell like appeasement real fast.
So, the thing is… all the nations that care will be financially ruined trying that.
Which would strengthen their enemies…
And they know that.
Geopolitics has consequences. What some see as endless wars others see as opportunity to practice a long held human tradition. War.
It’s a skill you lose if you don’t practice.
Today we were told once again the west is dead. Long live America, and the west… is the western hemisphere. It belongs to the USA. America owns everything on this continent. They keep telling us that. Who is going to stop them when Russia tells Europe.. guess who provides you the oil that runs your great nations. Sure would be a shame to leave you in the dark. China gets the rest. Unified, finally.
The new world order.
“The revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it to be”
Can’t believe this is the history we got.
Fix your own fucking country.
Brother, a South African Billionaire poured all the money he could into the last election until it was broken. An Australian media mogul set the stage for this with 30 years of propaganda and Europe themselves built a system of reliance on America, all of which were necessary steps to getting here. This doesn't happen without Fox news, without Elon Musk, or without Europe being so entangled in the US they can barely enact any sanctions without destroying their own countries.
Your country was founded on stolen land and has a history of doing this throughout your history. The nazis were inspired by your nation.
Stop blaming everyone else, take accountability, and accept that your country has to change itself.
Edit: So it seems this touched a nerve. I just wanted to edit to add that, of course, America isn't the only evil empire, it's just, at present, the worst evil empire.
Americans are, in my experience, very firmly in denial about the history of their nation, wanting to act like Trump is acting in some unprecedented way. He isn't, at all. This won't end when Trump is deposed. You need to change the spirit of your people.
You are not alone in that, of course, but we all need to admit it.
The US needs to change and so does much of the rest of the world. The two aren't mutually exclusive and much of the problem as it now exists can only take this current visage because of both national and international groundwork laid before. Whether or not this country is capable of positive change, that change alone would not be enough to prevent this from happening again. We know this because, in different ways and at varying levels of effectiveness, what is happening in the US is also happening in a plethora of places all around the world, right this moment, for basically all of the same reasons and purposes.
As the person you responded to already illustrated, the problem is larger than any one country, and looking away from that is just as in the way of progress as the countless shitheads among my own countrymen who refuse to stand up against what cruelties this nation is currently enacting.
So, yes. US citizens definitely do need to do their part. We have a lot of shit to sort over here. But that doesn't make it helpful to pretend that we are the only number in this elaborate equation. The wealthy dirtbags who've put us all in this position benefit off of treating it as such, as this allows them the same freedom to keep at it, but this certainly does not make it true. If the US were to properly fall and the current administration was erased along with it, do you really think this problem would be over? Don't you think the stateside billionaires pushing for all of this would just leave and continue on elsewhere? And what of those who ar not and never were based here?Us dipshit US rednecks aren't stopping all of them from all of that, no matter how this all ends up going down. Not on our own, at the very least. Because, in spite of our outsized effect on the globe, the problem is much larger than just us.
Fucking hot take from someone that doesn’t think about the stupid shit they say.
So my family is here literally because both grandparents escaped the Nazis. I’m not fucking here because of genocide in america, im here because of genocide in europe!
A genocide EUROPEANS didn’t handle let alone Germany!
Your words are meaningless. You don’t think about what America IS. Who really lives here!
That’s BEFORE the fact everyone took advantage of our military might while telling their citizens how much better they were because look at the cheap healthcare and education!
While they peep on the data of millions for the eyes of the surveillance state that is the USA in secret. For shame on everyone.
America is a fucking joke. Every American is at fault for all of the ills of the world. So fucking easy to be you, isn’t it? Offload all that bandwidth to people you don’t know, to think you’re above over a hundred million people. More people than most countries have in the usa and are against this. They vote in people who lied to them about leading them through this. All of our fucking allies helped in this charade!
Everyone is to fucking blame.
There were only Native Americans before America was 'founded', so who exactly stole it, remind me?
And we let them do it
I don't remember having a say in Citizens United, or the defense contracts of other countries. I can say I've voted for every politician on my ballot that promised to challenge CU and/or reduce military spending though. But those votes aren't always democrats so half the time people tell me I waste my vote for it.
Yea, they keep lying to us about how ” The other “ is to blame if you don’t vote a certain way.
And i mean, at this point the damned outcome doesn’t feel much different in the end.
Poor powerless stupid Americans, but responsible for anything they country does.
Grow the fuck up.
All I've said is we're not the only ones who need to change which is pretty unarguable. It's so strange seeing people misinterpret that the second they feel called out. Why is it controversial for the top level commentor to ask for sanctions, aka ask for other people to aslo not support a war mongering country? Is that not what we all agreed was best to do to Russia? Or would sanctioning the US inconvenience you too much?
Global problems need global solutions, and the current American government is absolutely a global problem.
The whole world is sick of America trying to fix the world because we fuck up everything we touch. You really want us fixing this shit ourselves?
They don’t have the stomach for it. They can’t inconvenience themselves enough to stop it, either. All that American hate is projection.
Germany didn’t.
Sorry according to our Supreme Court money is more important than people in the usa... And the president is allowed to do anything which only gop ones seem to care about