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Young climate activist tells Greenpeace to drop ‘old-fashioned’ anti-nuclear stance (www.theguardian.com)

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[+] vaseltarp@lemmy.world -15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nuclear energy can not be used to "plug gaps". The power that it produces can not be varied very quickly. The goal should be to only have renewable in the end.

[-] lewis6991@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Solar panels aren't truly renewable since they degrade over time and need to be replaced after around 20-30 years. Yes they can be recycled, but so can (and is) nuclear waste.

Everything has a cost and you can't escape entropy.

[-] LoveSausage@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Minimum warranty for good solar panels at 90% is 30 years , they will last 60 (no one knows exactly) albeit not as efficient.

[-] lewis6991@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just had some installed. ~~Guaranteed 80% efficiency for 20 years.~~ I heavily doubt they will last 60 years.

Had energy storage installed as well. Only guaranteed 90% (~4500 cycles) for 10 years.

EDIT: double checked the data sheet. They are actually 86% for 25 years with a rated 0.5% per year degradation rate.

[-] LoveSausage@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Quite sure mine had 30 years at 90 % . But it was the really good mono ones. Storage is a completely different story. But hey even if they are down to 25% I would keep them and just add new ones.

0.5 would mean 30 for 60 years also..

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This is true; nothing is sustainable at geological time scales. Human technological civilization even less so. Just look at how badly North Africa, the Middle East and China's environment has been degraded through thousands of years of organic (!) farming. The Middle East used to have enormous cypress forests, and North Africa was full of wetlands where the Qattara Depression now resides.

[-] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let's not forget about nuclear fusion, which will be way more efficient and have less waste if we can figure it out!!!😉

[-] Sentau@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

What I meant by gaps was that nuclear can be used in areas where solar or wind is not feasible yet or in areas where solar or wind cannot fulfill the energy demands.

Also we have very good control over nuclear power generation. There are a variety of methods using which we can control the reaction rate of the fission process

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

Uhhhhh

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