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To build a fully climate-neutral transport system in the Netherlands, many citizens will have to give up their cars, Jan Willem Eirsman, the government’s new chief climate adviser as chairman of the Scientific Climate Council, told the AD.

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[-] coyootje@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

If only our public transport was affordable. We pay way more than other European countries (besides maybe Germany and the Scandinavian countries), especially when you consider how little distance you're really travelling. As an example, to get from Eindhoven central station to Amsterdam central station you take 1 train, it takes you 1 hour and 20 minutes and you pay €22,70 for a one way ticket. If we're looking at distance, this is about 120 km. This means that to get there and go back home you pay €45,40.

If you travel by yourself you can argue that it's worth it to take the train there since parking + fuel isn't that cheap here either. However, as soon as you have more than 1 person the car quickly becomes the cheaper option, even with parking included. As long as they don't solve this issue I don't see any success in their push to get people to use public transport. And I know the solution will probably be to make everything even more expensive but that's not going to help in the long run either...

[-] iain@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

The trains and subways are already very full. Just making things cheaper will not be enough. We need to massively invest in new lines and more frequent trains everywhere.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

One of the train companies here are using a 3 coach commuter train for long intercity travel. It's extremely unpleasant, people are always standing in the aisle and sitting on their suitcases by the doors.

I honestly have no idea why they can't just... make the train longer?! The 30 min frequency is not an issue for me, although it isn't great. The constant overcrowding on the other hand is horrible.

[-] coyootje@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That's because NS is trying to cheap out on things for some reason. You keep hearing about them removing trains from the schedule or shortening them.

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