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submitted 3 days ago by filister@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I am running Bluefin immutable distro and I would like to test Niri. I found on the net that the cleanest way is to use systemd-sysext and I have managed to install Niri using the community extensions.

Now I would like to install Dank Material Shell, and it has a couple of pre-requisites and I am clueless how I can add them again with systemd-sysext.

I tried to look for additional information, but found very little on the matter. Do any of you have experience with this?

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Gotta say... This is not how you'd generally do any of this. Where you get this info?

[-] nobody_1677@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's not how you "generally" do it because many immutable distro developers keep developing additional ways to do package management that are more and more complicated.

I still don't get why we can't have a BSD like approach. Make usr, bin, sbin read-only. But have /usr/local be writable and have a traditional package manager install to that location instead.

[-] j0rge@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Bluefin maintainer here, you've described how Bluefin works except it's ~/.local/bin.

I am pretty sure we have not been developing package managers lol.

[-] nobody_1677@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

So if i were to "sudo dnf install neovim" on Bluefin, that would install Neovim to ~/.local/bin?

I didn't mean to say that Universal Blue specifically was making new package managers, but that in general new package managers have been created specifically to solve problems introduced by going immutable/atomic/image-based/whatever.

[-] j0rge@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

No they would brew install neovim. System-level package management goes away entirely, that's the point.

What new package managers? homebrew has been around for years. What problems are you describing? If you mean read only root that has been around since the 1980s. The problem as you describe it has been removed, you move on from package based entropy to image based systems.

This isn't a trend, modern linux is this way, it's just the desktop that has been behind until now.

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