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Yeah, they all really do feel like "Oh you want to stop playing World of Warcraft, but still want an online game to play? Try Second Life!" and I think that's partly because there isn't an app out there that feels like Discord besides Discord. Cinny (Matrix), IRC, and Stoat come close, but none support voice calls at this point, at least that I can find. Matrix itself supports calling (though I think that's still experimental), but Cinny doesn't. If it ever ends up supporting voice calls, that will likely end up being the Discord alternative In wouldn't feel bad recommending.
Until then, though, we don't really have a true Discord alternative. Just various chat apps that don't quite hit the mark.
Stoat literally supports voice calls and Matrix has supported 1 on 1 voice calls for a long time and now they are testing group voice chats
I'm sorry but it will be difficult to deliver something that fits all the checkboxes Discord filled without a lot of money behind it.
Following the food analogy, you don't want a burger, you want a whole buffet with all the foods discord delivered.
I haven't actually used Stoat, but they don't have group voice calls listed on their website, so I assumed they weren't there. My mistake on that part, but also they should probably list that on their website. That would probably put Stoat as the most viable alternative, especially if they add federation (especially over XMPP, which it seemed from their website was the most likely they'd go with?)
Nowhere in my comment did I state that Matrix didn't support voice calls. What was said was this:
Cinny doesn't. Their UI does not have a call button that I can locate, unless they're hiding it because I'm the only user in the room.
Fundamentally Stoat is probably the one that's there as a Discord replacement, since it does have calls, and between two different apps you can get a fully functiobal Discord alternative out of Matrix. But you have to use two apps to get it. If Stoat adds XMPP federation I will 100% switch in a heartbeat tho, I've been saying we could have a discord-like XMPP client since I started using XMPP.
Back on topic, though, the things I want out of a true discord replacement are this:
That's all. That's all Discord has over literally every other chat app. If something is missing those 3 features, it's not a Discord alternative. It's a chat app, which is fine! But when people say shit like "Signal is a good Discord alternative" it makes me question how they're defining every word in that sentence, because it is 100% on the level of saying Guild War 2 is a good Second Life alternative. And my experience with most of the big "Discord alternatives" is that they aren't. The default Matrix+Element experience is not like Discord. I had to start a whole ass Lemmy thread to be pointed to Cinny, which has 2 of those features! Missing the third. Element has two of those features! Missing the third on mobile. I want a cheeseburger and what's happening is one place will sell me a grilled cheese, and the other is selling me a burger with a slice of cheese on top.
I already commented elsewhere but I think https://commet.chat/ is the best alternative, it runs on matrix, has voice chat and text. Still needs some work but I think it’s the better part of both worlds
It absolutely seems like the best alternative, yeah. I'll need to get some back end stuff handled to test calling (or just make an account on a server with it), and see how it works